Re: [Freevo-users] website maintainer wanted

[Dale Cooper]

In reply to many (all?) of you  and Gustavo Barbieri and Fons van der Beek and the guy from Malaysia (BTW what city? I was in Kuala Lumpur couple of times :) ): Please, forget about the forum thing. It was wrong idea, I apologize to bring it up. I apologize to you and your children and theirs children :) (OK, a little bit of "Fish called Wanda" here but I mean it. I already forgot that such thing as forum exists :).) Fons van der Beek wrote: I amsterdam!!! Dale, I agree, it's a beast, but from what I saw we only need limited funtionality: -wiki for the documentation. -a menu with shortcuts and some pages for : hardware, autheurs, background etc etc -faq with the possibility of suggestions -image gallery -for the plugins: file-admin and attachments. Detailed HOW TOs: we (I definitely) need HOWTOs for hardware :) No, seriously... It would be nice if anyone who has got some HW configuration (DVB card, VGA card etc.) would write what Kernel/SW version s/he is running, what s/he did, optionally modules loaded... It is done this way at "ndiswrapper" wiki and as I mentioned, my adventures with hardware were really big.. so even I contributed because my card was the first one that worked, so I added that to HW compatibility list. Hopefully it helped others. Or, at least - some "easy to install" HW combinations. Anyone who would want to build Freevo could check the page and see already approved/somewhere running hardware. N00bs like me would surely appreciate modules and parameters etc. (see my DVB-T mail today :( ) What do you think? It has a good and solid security, a "anti-bot" mechanism and protection of email-adresses setup of groups: -anomynous -webadmins (users administring the webinterface) -document-admins (users for administring the documentation) and ofcourse the "admin" Registered users should be able to contribute to some parts of the page - if the above mentioned "HW compatibility list" would make it to the relaunched website. What do you think? Dale. P.S. Who is supposed to work and instead is writing to freevo mailing list almost all the time ;) skins: We only need one: why putting effort in giving everyone it's own skin, Freevo is ment to be a public website............. I just got blue and white, some background pictures from freevo.sf.net in the main stylesheet, a few new header tags...............et voila......the same as the current freevo site forum: The main disadvantage of a forum in general is the lack of support for 1) incomming email 2) not searchable for google and other search machines (or at least not that good) 3) a developper has to put in more effort to answer a question over a forum 4) a forum has allways more downtime as a maillinglist. 5) by integrating http://www.mail-archive.com/freevo-users%40lists.sourceforge.net/ in the website, i'am sure that something can be done on that a perfect lookup tool can be created for searching. if a forum is wanted, i guess the best is phpBB2 it's commonly used and stable, but every forum i frequently visit was "often" down......stability of a mailinglist is unbeatable Dale, i 've sent you seperat email with a sneak preview and a username/password by the way look at my input as "discussing" for gathering different point of views, that's all................ With kind regards Fons van der Beek ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] website maintainer wanted Fons van der Beek wrote: Dale, hmmmmmmmm, i took a look at tikiwiki........it looks great..............how about that one? it looks like it has some good user/login features. I played around for about 30 mins and i was able to create almost the same looks as the current site a big working example (not that pretty, but very functional) at www.voip-info.org. I will play a little bit around with it and will try to give an answer to the security and functionality Unfortunatly i have not that much time this weekend, but I will let you know something. Kind regards Fons van der Beek Cheers to Netherland, just got back from Amsterdam :) Anyway - this beast? I installed this twice - once a year ago and a month ago I gave that a second try. Ah, well, it is OK as Wiki. However, it has got tempting features like forums (LOL) and calendars and all this stuff ... and then it becomes kind of a hell to manage :) We _wanted_ to use that as internal CMS however are looking for replacement. The biggest issue is the rendering in diferent browsers and using different skins. Some skins are simply not usable at all :( The best one is the default one, the one you have on your page. Also, in Mozilla (Windows/Linux) I get screwed pages quite regularly, simply rendered all wrong :( Same is true in MSIE and Opera. But this we experienced in forums and calendars. Forums are not popular here anyway so it does not have to bother me ;) Ifr we use this for freevo WIKI only, it is OK. After recent experience I would like to avoid turning on some of the other modules. regards, Dale