I've tried it, whitout luck :(

I made sure the submount rule in /etc/fstab was uncommented. removed the
module from being started. Stopped autofs starting up.

Apparantly Fedora Core 4 uses udev and hal.
After rebooting I could play a DVD, but could not remove it anymore. So it
was mounted.
Proof of fact: /etc/fstab

# the uncomment rule
#/dev/hda                 /media/cdrecorder       subfs
fs=cdfss,users,defaults    0 0

This rule was automagicly added after reboot

/dev/hda                /media/cdrecorder1      auto   
pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0

So the freevo mechanism does not work for me (yet).
Probably I need to dig into info about HAL and udev to prevent automounts.
On the other hand, usb devices working as one should excpect: painless.

I will reenable the subfs system again and start digging into the deeper
basics of the automount system. However, in my case it should be cleaner
to disable the freevo mount behaviour.

Anybody has some toughts?
Not that it produces errors or is annoying, but having two systems for the
same job is definitly not a good thing.

Geert



> Geert-
>   Oops, sorry for the typo. Good point baout teh more and more common
> automounting setup of the newer Linux distros. I still use Slackware,
> so had not really thought about that.
>
> Evan
>
> On 7/28/05, Geert Decorte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This link in the wiki is related to this discussion
>>
>> http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/MovieUsage
>>
>> I believe the point is due to distributions which have automount working
>> by default for the CD/DVD device.
>>
>> In my case I had replace it by submount. So disabling any mounting of
>> the
>> DVD/CD should work fine. At least I'm gonna try that.
>> The only way were submount should be effective: you use the computer for
>> multiple purposes (Desktop).
>> So somewhere in the WIKI there should be a statement to drop
>> automounting
>> systems for dvd/cd in order to avoid possible issues. Or is there a way
>> to
>> disable this default behaviour in freevo? Most linux distributions will
>> include (actually they do) more and more auto mounting systems.
>>
>> BTW Evan: Greet is a christian name for female. My name is Geert.
>>
>>
>> Geert
>>
>>
>> > All I know is that if I have a disc mounted then start and stop freevo
>> > it is no longer mounted.  Freevo must have some internal mounting
>> > already built in because when I put in a CD or DVD it automatically
>> > "mounts" it (I don't know if it is officially mounted or if it's just
>> > some internal trickery) and when I press the eject button on the drive
>> > itself it is unmounted and ejected automatically.
>> >
>> > I think the real problem that should be addressed is:
>> > If this is not working for you without supermount/submount then what
>> > is wrong with the freevo configuration you have as it SHOULD work like
>> > you want it to WITHOUT external automounting facilities.
>> >
>> > 2005/7/28, Evan Hisey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >> Greet-
>> >>   I would say, preformance issue are the big thing. Freevo has not
>> >> need to have any disc's mounted to play and the eject buttons work
>> >> fine on my drives. As understand it Freevo handles that part in the
>> >> background. Running a second system to do the same thing, is going ot
>> >> add alot of undeeded over head with the potential of race or
>> confilcts
>> >> between the two systems. Lastly it just makes installing freevo that
>> >> much harder
>> >>
>> >> Evan.
>> >>
>> >> On 7/27/05, Geert Decorte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > Evan,
>> >> >
>> >> > Could you be more specific?
>> >> > I don't see why you find this a bad idea.
>> >> >
>> >> > > Greet-
>> >> > >   I think using something like submount/supermount is just a bad
>> >> idea
>> >> > > in this case. Freevo handles VCD/CD/DVD just fine without any
>> kind
>> >> of
>> >> > > mounting madness outside of freevo.
>> >> >
>> >> > I added submount to make my freevobox pass the housewife :) test.
>> >> > Normal users will push the eject button. Like they use to do with
>> CD
>> >> > players. They expect the devices behave like this. Intuitive
>> >> behaviour.
>> >> > Creating a application where the user has to read a phone-book size
>> >> manual
>> >> > full of exceptions doesn't make much sense to me.
>> >> > Mounted CD's needs to be umounted first before ejecting.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway, thnx to submount CD's get ejected using the eject button
>> >> instead
>> >> > of issuing the eject command from the keyboard/remote control.
>> adding
>> >> a
>> >> > new CD to the tray gets automagicly detected and applied into
>> freevo.
>> >> > So far I didn't see any problem with it. Perhaps this could raise
>> >> > performance issue with slower processors?
>> >> > Mandriva users using freevo should already have this feature thanks
>> to
>> >> > supermount.
>> >> >
>> >> > Geert
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Evan
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 7/26/05, Geert Decorte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > >> I had covered this issue lately in the WIKI.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Either you install submount or supermount.
>> >> > >> The mandrake distribution comes default with supermount
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/TipsAndTricks#head-1d05cdb982531dee65b0f3d20548b880722069ae
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Submount needs only a additional kernel module and some
>> experiments
>> >> with
>> >> > >> parameters in /etc/fstab
>> >> > >> Supermount needs a patched kernel
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> HTH
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Geert
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:44 am, Jake Briggs wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > you dont need to mount a dvd to play it.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > eject can be used with EJECT mapped to a button on the remote,
>> or
>> >> "."
>> >> > >> on
>> >> > >> > your
>> >> > >> > keyboard.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I dont have supermount or anything on any of my freevo boxes.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Travis.
>> >> > >> >> WiSHiE wrote:
>> >> > >> >> >On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:29 am, Jake Briggs wrote:
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> >you press "eject" on your remote(or keyboard . ), take the
>> DVD
>> >> out,
>> >> > >> and
>> >> > >> >> > put a new one in.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> So your saying that freevo will umount the dvd, and dosent
>> use
>> >> > >> >> supermount?  Because that would be handy :)
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> >You do not need to exit freevo.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> Last time I attempted to watch 2 dvds (actually, the only
>> time I
>> >> have
>> >> > >> >> attempted this) the eject button (On the drive itself)
>> wouldnt
>> >> work
>> >> > >> as I
>> >> > >> >> expected, and I have neglected to map a button on my remote
>> to
>> >> > >> "eject".
>> >> > >> >> I put the drive in about three months after I set freevo up
>> >> initially
>> >> > >> >> you see.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> >Wouldnt be much of a home theatre setup if you had to turn
>> it
>> >> off to
>> >> > >> >> watch
>> >> > >> >> >another movie now, would it ? :)
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> Haha true :)
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> Jake
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> >>Hi all
>> >> > >> >> >>
>> >> > >> >> >>How does one change a dvd when running freevo? For example,
>> I
>> >> just
>> >> > >> >> >>watched a movie, and I want to watch another. Do i have to
>> >> exit
>> >> > >> >> freevo,
>> >> > >> >> >>umount the dvd, eject the dvd, then insert the new one,
>> then
>> >> run
>> >> > >> >> freevo
>> >> > >> >> >>again? Or can freevo do this sort of thing automatically
>> >> (well,
>> >> > >> apart
>> >> > >> >> >>from the 'insert a new one' part :) ).
>> >> > >> >> >>
>> >> > >> >> >>I was just going to configure the supermount stuff last
>> night,
>> >> but
>> >> > >> >> then
>> >> > >> >> >>I thought I had better ask, maybe freevo has some issues
>> when
>> >> using
>> >> > >> >> >>supermount ?
>> >> > >> >> >>
>> >> > >> >> >>Jake
>> >> > >> >
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