Now to the more detailed answer.

John Molohan wrote:
> OK seems how my grand dreams of picking up programming again have 
> disappeared now that I have less free time than ever I'll offer a 
> different solution. I'll pay towards this work being done, a couple of 
> hundred euro, if others donate too to lessen my burden that would be 
> great. 

That would be great, maybe someone here can be moticated to help. And
of course I also have a paypay account and an amazon wishlist. Search
for [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you feel you want to thank
me :)

> I know that the core developers on freevo just don't have enough 
> hours to deliver 2.0 as soon as everyone wants and there seems to be a 
> lack of any new blood joining so this might make sense. 

That is our main problem. We are two developers (Tack and I). Tack
"only" works on kaa modules, I do all the Freevo work. We both have
jobs to get the food on the table, so it is slow. And if I would leave
the project, it would be dead, nobody else knows the freevo code. Tack
could start a new project based on kaa in that case, but we want to
avoid that. So we need new blood joining us, learn to understand the
code, help us developing some parts.

One reason for the "Kaa Media Repository" was to split Freevo into
smaller modules easier to understand. So if some people try to learn
one or two modules and help us, that would be great (see below).

> I haven't been involved before in contracting like this in the open
> source community so I don't know how it's usually done but I see
> that SF has a donate (paypal) option for each project. If I donate
> would someone else look after the administration side? 

I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

> How much should be paid per contribution?  In terms of attracting
> candidates updating www.freevo.org and postings to users local lugs
> might be appropriate? This also raises the issue of what would be
> the most worthwhile missing code to get done (maybe this isn't the
> most important). I guess Dischi, Jason & Rob (if your still around)
> are the best people to decide this.

OK, here a small list of task that someone needs to do. What parts are
worth some money, I don't know.

1. Mailing lists: I don't have time to read them. I could answer all
   the Freevo related questions in users, but if I do so, I won't have
   any more time coding. So help youself. It would be great if the
   real hard questions could get to me and I answer. Some sort of
   second level support. :). I try to read the devel list, but
   sometimes users stuff gets into it. The last week I only had time
   for Tacks mails because he is most important for development right
   now. I only saw your mail because someone pointed me to it.

2. Homepage: someone following svn could post some updates now and
   then. I always want to do it, but again, I have hacking stuff to do
   I like much more. There is a bugreport in one list that the Debian
   install instructions are wrong and I had no time to fix this.

3. Wiki: we always need more doc. I plan to move the wiki to a new
   server here at the university. I need to check if this is
   possible. Moving away from sf would speed up the wiki.

   a. 2.0 API: we have some doc inside the code and start some source
      doc in the 2.0 wiki. But a lot of stuff is missing. This is the
      point were some people could help: read the doc inside the code,
      play with it, learn how it works or read examples and write some
      development doc. As soon as we have good API doc, it is easier
      for new people to help. Don't be shy, just add stuff to the
      wiki. I read wiki the changelog and will fix wrong doc. A
      starting point would be a kaa module.

   b. 2.0 internal doc: Some as api but less important. More doc what
      is happening inside. Again, a small kaa module is an easy
      starting point.

4. Coding: Like I wrote before, some important parts are still
   missing. And again, a kaa module is easier to understand than the
   whole Freevo monster. If you want to help but have some questions
   about stuff like kaa.notifier, just ask on freevo-devel or
   #freevo.

   a. kaa.player: the module is in a very early stage, much to do, not
      much to understand first (except kaa.notifier). Mplayer and Xine
      need better support for all the cool options they have and
      gstreamer support is missing.

   b. kaa.canvas: well, this is where Tack wants to play. But I guess
      help is always needed. Integration of it will be done once
      kaa.canvas is updated (that will be my part).

   c. kaa.beacon: my current playground. Most of it is finished,
      integration into Freevo will be the next step.

   d. kaa.record: maybe gstreamer based? Hard to tell. Also depends on
      a good steaming solution (kaa.player again). I know someone who
      wants to help, but he has no time at all the next 4 weeks. Also
      missing is teletext support, ad detection, ca support, etc.


I guess that's it. 


Dischi

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