Re Pamela's reply: Me, too! Re Robert's: When I was growing up, we learned " Roy G. Biv", a name silly enough that you weren't likely to forget it and that definitely included indigo.

Dede

On Nov 30, 2006, at 7:17 PM, J T Johnson wrote:

My apologies, and I seem to be pushing the evelope of original intent for the FRIAM list, but I find this sort of "anthropology of numbers" topic an interesting problem that converges on interesting questions in how we design, say, databases or UIs that are applicable anywhere, anytime.

So for what it's worth....

-tj

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>From the Chronicle of Higher Ed's Magazine and Journal Reader.
Thursday, November 30, 2006

A glance at the current issue of the Bulletin of Science, Technology &
Society: The yin and yang of numbers across cultures


      In Japanese culture, a rainbow is considered to consist of seven
colors: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and purple. A rainbow has one less color in the West, as Americans and Europeans tend not to count indigo. However, because a rainbow is actually a continuous spectrum, both
perceptions are wrong, notes Yutaka Nishiyama, a professor at Osaka
University of Economics, in Japan. He says those distinct viewpoints
reflect a Japanese preference for odd numbers and Western favoritism toward
even numbers.
Mr. Nishiyama provides numerous other examples to suggest an East-West
difference in the preference for odd or even numbers. According to a
Japanese proverb, for example, three heads are better than two, "whereas in English, two are better than one." In a study of number-related words in
English and Japanese, he found additional evidence. "It appears," he
writes, "that the Japanese language has a cultural setting that favors the odd numbers 3 and 5, whereas English has a cultural setting that favors the
even numbers 2, 4, and 6."

The author looks at historical clues in attempting to explain why different cultures may have a preference for one form of numbers over the other. The ancient Greeks, he says, regarded odd numbers as good. So did the ancient Chinese. The latter utilized yin-yang thought, which is based on the idea of alternating opposites. For instance, yang is generally considered to be masculine, and yin to be feminine. He emphasizes, however, that the concept
is meant to be interpreted as a system of opposites and of "infinite
change," not as "a case of one being superior or inferior to the other." So a man is yang in relation to a woman, but yin in relation to his parents. Only in modern times, he says, has yang come to be understood as "good and
superior" in relation to yin.

He concludes that the ancient preference for odd numbers probably faded in
the West with the arrival of modern mathematics, "as represented by
Newton." As he explains it, modern mathematics values rationality, and
"seems to have abandoned the ideas of ancient Chinese yin-yang thought and ancient Greek philosophy, in which odd numbers were male and even numbers
female. When counting numbers, odd numbers were incomplete, in-between
numbers, whereas even numbers were certainly more rational." Thus, "in
contrast to the East, where odd numbers are positive and good, in the West,
odd numbers are incomplete and superfluous."

The article, "A Study of Odd- and Even-Number Cultures," is temporarily
available free through Sage Publications.

http://bst.sagepub.com/cgi /content/abstract/26/6/479

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