Owen, et alii -


Has anyone used this in complexity science work?  Or semantic web
work?  Or anything else?  :)


My colleagues at UNM... Tom Caudell (whom I believe you have met), Tim Goldsmith (Cognitive Psychologist) and Mike Healey (Mathematician retired from UWash) are using it to develop knowledge models from expert elicitation. The methodology they are developing is essentially (apologies to them for any mistakes I make) as follows:

1) Collect a set of potential "experts".
2) Interview them about the topic in question, primarily asking what words (terms) they use ot describe the topic, think about the topic, pontificate on the topic. 3) Pile all these terms on a big blanket out in the field on a windy day. 4) Toss the terms in the air and let the wind carry away the lightweight and trivial ones.
5) Sort through the remainders and join up synonyms .
6) Go back to the experts and ask them to rank the pairwise distance between terms. (N squared!) One gets a fully connected graph. 7) Do some kind of normalization thingy amongst the results... call it a numerical average for now. 8) Threshold the edges such that the graph no longer is fully connected (black magic mojo). 9) Iteratively consult a subset ( the more cooperative ones?) of experts on steps 7, 8.
10)  Viola!

Although I am only peripherally involved in their discussions on this, I believe: A) 8) There are probably more advanced graph theoretic things to do than simply threshold the weights... like collapsing cycles and/or finding some heirarchy, and/or thresholding some more interesting??? derived measure than the simple, original weights... maybe... B) 7) There are likely somewhat interesting things to do here, especially to (later) place the different experts "point of view" relative to the collective. There would seem to be a lot of soft and/or unknown factors regarding the nature of the experts... etc.

I'm trying to converge my own less formal theories about Metaphor in Information Visualization (formal analogy, etc) with their work, but there is still a bit of distance (probably entirely in my lack of understanding of the nuances of category theory). My now-30-year old BS in Mathematics and Physics with a handful of graduate courses in group theory and topology tossed on top for garnish serves me just well enough to get in trouble...

I have been doing work in Visualization of Ontologies which also seems to relate... I'm not sure anyone knows how to build an ontology really... or how to describe the caveats and conditions surrounding the Ontology. The Gene Ontology I have worked most with seems to have plenty of anomolies of both history and of the compromises made to bring it to a single, agreed-upon ontology...

It seems that most Ontologies, at least for the moment are going to be self-organizing... that the only people both able and willing to build such a huge abstract beast are those who will also use it...

One problem (in my opinion) is that it is somewhat of a "theory of everything" so in some sense, all formal knowledge models can be expressed in or traced back to category theory... so merely saying that one is "using category theory" is not unlike replying to the question "How did you get here?" with "I used a mode of transportation".

For example, at a meeting between Caudell and two of my more strongly mathematically inclined colleagues last week, it was stated with complete confidence and agreement around the the table that Formal Concept Analysis is "just a specific use of Category Theory"...


We've knocked around the term Category Theory a bit lately, so I
started looking into it a bit.  This seems to be a reasonable
starting place:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_theory

Wikipedia strikes again! I am constantly amazed at how accessible and thorough technical information on Wikipedia is. I can't vouch for it's accuracy (or thoroughness) in this case, but I am impressed at how well these articles seem to summarize what I think I already know and plenty I'm still trying to figure out.

And to make it even more interesting... isn't Wikipedia a self-organizing ontology of everything? If one "labels" the links used in Wikipedia to other Wikipedia elements with the verbs used in the text, does that not begin to make an ontology?

Like the first line In Categories:

mathematics, categories allow one to formalize notions involving abstract structure and processes that preserve structure.

We have a link between "Categories" and "Mathematics" and perhaps (suggesting new links or topic are needed in Wikipedia) "Notions" and "Structure" or perhaps "Abstract Structure" and "Processes", etc..

I look forward to the evolution of this discussion here (If I can even keep up).

- Steve
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