Sorry for the (old) repeat, but Arrow's Impossibility Theorem came up  
at last Friam, so I thought I'd resend the past post.

The conversation relating to AIT included noting that the US two  
party scheme does not escape the issue, due to the primaries  
basically being a tournament run off amongst 3 or more candidates,  
and that the parties themselves are built from several coalitions,  
thus are greater than a 2-choice vote/game.

One thought I had on the matter was:
   - Let everyone vote in both primaries
   - Hold all primaries on the same day

BTW: Since this was written, Robert Holmes discussed with several of  
us one of the fair voting schemes in the UK.  I forget the details,  
but the aim was to insure the individual voters maximized their input  
into the vote.  Robert -- do you know where that scheme fits into AIT?

I would like to add that AIT is germane to ABM: may of the models  
have agents "voting" amongst each other for access to resources, and  
similarly, voting within themselves for behavior rules, often with  
knowledge of the community's preferences.  Both are within AIT, I'd  
guess.

We may want to put our heads together at an upcoming wedtech to see  
if we understand this, and its impact on our work.

     -- Owen


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Owen Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: December 18, 2003 10:20:05 AM MST
> To: The Friday Morning Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: [FRIAM] Arrow's Impossibility Theorem
> Reply-To: The Friday Morning Complexity Coffee Group  
> <[email protected]>
>
> During the last Friam, we got talking about voting and Arrow's  
> Impossibility Theorem came up.  It basically discusses anomalies in  
> voting when there are more than two choices being voted upon.
>
> The result depends strongly on how the votes are tallied.  So for  
> example, in our last election, due to having three candidates, we  
> entered the Arrow regime.  But "spoilers" like Ralph are not the  
> only weirdness.
>
> The html references below have interesting examples, and the pdf  
> reference is a paper by SFI's John Geanakoplos who gave a public  
> lecture last year.
>
> "Fair voting" schemes are getting some air-time now a-days.  There  
> are several forms, but the most popular I think is that you  
> basically rank your candidates in order of preference, the "top- 
> most" being your current vote. There are several run-offs which  
> eliminate the poorest performer and let you vote again, now with  
> the highest of your ranks still available.  This insures you always  
> have a vote if you want one.  This would have won the election here  
> for Gore, for example, presuming the Nader votes would favor Gore.
>
> Various web pages with examples:
>   http://www.udel.edu/johnmack/frec444/444voting.html
>   https://econ.gsia.cmu.edu/Freshman_Seminar/notes_on_arrow.htm
>   http://www.personal.psu.edu/staff/m/j/mjd1/ 
> arrowimpossibilitytheorem.htm
>   http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/arrow.htm
> Three proofs by John Geanakoplos
>   http://cowles.econ.yale.edu/P/cd/d11a/d1123-r.pdf
>
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