> What can complexity science do other than humble us all?  If scientists
> dont induct, then they dont DEduct because every deduction requires an
> induction along the way.  So what DO we do?  Build social consensus?

Two things: 1) to evolve, and 2) to be brave to build a new kind of
science... the game is about to begin again...

--Mikhail

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From: "Nicholas Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:14 AM
Subject: [FRIAM] RE Complexity and dispair.


> Ok, let me ask the question less coyly.  Most of the impact of complexity
> has been to tunnel under and loosen the foundations of ordinary science.
> Is that correct, or is it not?   One of the important messages of
> complexity is that no matter what we know about a process, we cannot ever
> know what it is going to do next.  It is like the problem of induction: 
> no
> matter how much evidence we collect for the proposition that Grass is
> green,  that evidence equally supports the proposition that grass is
> "grue", i.e., green up til the time we stopped measuring it, and blue
> thereafter.  So in order to do any inference, we have to believe aprori
> that properties like grue are just shitty properties and we arent going to
> consider them.  But think of some of those models in A NEW KIND OF SCIENCE
> that are "green" for a gazillion repllications only suddenly to bloom into
> "blueness" on the 34, 739th run.  Surely complexity tells us that there is
> Grueness in the world.
>
> What can complexity science do other than humble us all?  If scientists
> dont induct, then they dont DEduct because every deduction requires an
> induction along the way.  So what DO we do?  Build social consensus?
> Ugh!!!!
>
> Nick
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