Actually, the context of other replies covered my questions on the how
computers can link concepts, but not on how people somehow have such
separate languages that learning from one sphere can't cross over to the
other.   There's still that conceptual gap between promoting more
efficient growth and a desire to limit the real economic impacts on the
earth.  All the communities I have contacted on the subject are
speechless for some reason.   

The clear evidence of a gap in intellect is that global economic
efficiency is methodically improving at half the rate of output for
energy at least (Jevons Paradox, or the natural vanishing returns of
efficiency as you may call it).   You see the same pattern in the
general technology cycle that demonstrates a growth and climax
development model of terminally limiting efficiency for any physical
process known, and for good reasons applying generally to any possible
undiscovered one too, of the same kind as predicted by the 2nd law for
energy transformation.  It seems that the 1st law of human behavior, not
to look at the 2nd law, still predominates even among scientists, but
since the world is physically running smack into it at an accelerating
rate, something will give.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcus G. Daniels
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 11:54 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google and Semantics
> 
> 
> George Duncan wrote:
> > Not bad at a "meaning" level, I think. Also useful for the searcher.
> > Clusty is a Carnegie Mellon spinoff from CS. A lot of the research 
> > on information retrieval done here works with rather simple 
> > (conceptually at least) statistical models. Here's a link 
> with a broad 
> > overview: http://www.lti.cscmu.edu/Research/index.html 
> > <http://www.lti.cs.cmu.edu/Research/index.html>
> Thanks for the link -- looks like their machine translation and 
> information retrieval projects follow both statistical and 
> grammatical 
> approaches.    For web search engines, at least for casual users, I 
> think its pretty clear that stateless clustering approaches can work 
> well.   My interest is whether, using automated procedures, 
> scientific 
> terms can be determined to have consistent meanings or not.    If it 
> didn't matter what order words and sentences had, words' 
> part-of-speech, 
> etc.  then we ought to be able to scramble any text and still 
> understand 
> it.   (How basic statistical retrieval systems work.)
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