Mike 

YOU WROTE:

In fact, this FRIAM group should be operating in
a social network and these threads would be preserved for future readers.
If this is interest in this, I'll build one.

I have to say this interests me.  Much as I hated its "ontology",
BLACKBOARD had something that nothing else I have encountered has.  Public
or Private access, document posting, threaded discussion lists, and email
lists useable and manageable by all members of the list.   PB Wiki has a
lot of this stuff but none of the email facilities, yet.   

What are you using facebook FOR?

Nick 


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>    1. NPR : Size Matters: The Hidden Mathematics of Life (Owen Densmore)
>    2. whether successfully averted for the moment or not, ...
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>    3. Re: Facebook?  iPhone? (Michael Orshan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:57:59 -0600
> From: Owen Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FRIAM] NPR : Size Matters: The Hidden Mathematics of Life
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
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> Geoff is getting a lot of press lately, nice to see:
> <http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12877984>
>
>
>      -- Owen
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:24:05 -0400
> From: "Phil Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FRIAM] whether successfully averted for the moment or not,
>       ...
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> Hi folks, 
>
> ...this week's global run on credit seems like a casebook example of how
> a natural system failure to provide growing physical returns on
> investment would effect financial commitments for endlessly growing
> financial returns.      The naturally conflict.
>
> One thing we can do is watch it closely, so others may learn from our
> experience.   Because systemic collapse is a big physical process in a
> big physical system, displaying all-together new kinds of rapidly
> spreading behaviors, watch for that.   If you see that sort of thing
> perhaps you'll 'believe your eyes and ears' and not feel the
> observations were 'planted' in your imagination somehow.   Remember what
> things seemed to mean before and after and make note of it.
>
> ---
> I've been using the mismatch between our unlimited economic expectations
> and their certain disappointment as a way to learn about natural systems
> and how they fool us for about 30 years.   It's remains a rich and
> engaging subject.   In June I sent out my first 'system collision
> warning' ever, initially in a post to the AIA environment forum.    I
> said I thought the surprise discovery by the ethanol investors in May,
> that ethanol couldn't have the land they wanted (to begin the shift of
> the world economy to a carbon neutral energy source) because milk
> producers raised the price, signaled the tip of the growth system's
> physical collision with the earth we've all been waiting for, 'the big
> crunch'.    The same kind of 'fish-tailing' in the steering mechanisms
> of the world economic system I observed then in the energy markets also
> seems clear in the rapid, large scale, and indecisive maneuvering this
> week by financial institutions.
>
> Just because growth expectations are fulfilled, even for hundreds of
> years, doesn't mean it's not certain that natural systems will fail
> them, and so our financial design that requires growth for it's own
> stability is a mistake.   If this week's threatened global financial
> collapse is just a warning, well, then do take it as a warning.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:09:26 -0600
> From: "Michael Orshan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Facebook?  iPhone?
> To: "'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'"
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> Owen:
>
> I'm using Facebook and Linkedin for many purposes.  Cleary, social
networks
> are the future for many reasons.  Trade, relationships, causes, etc.
> Facebook is currently the fastest growing public social network, and
Myspace
> is the largest by far.  Linkedin is mostly for business and is trying to
> compete with the others.  Social networking is becoming the key for
Internet
> traffic growth in advertising, your causes or to create your social site.

>
> They all allow 3rd party widgets, but you need to stay on the site.  This
> creates a specialized third party application.  Maybe with a little
> database.  
>
> They are wonderful because they bring people with "like" minds together. 
If
> you think of eBay, people trade without knowing each other and their biz
> model is beginning to show rust.  It is slowing down.  Social network
trade
> will probably take over.   In fact, this FRIAM group should be operating
in
> a social network and these threads would be preserved for future readers.
> If this is interest in this, I'll build one.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> Of Owen Densmore
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:02 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: [FRIAM] Facebook? iPhone?
>
> OK, I've been bumping into facebook a bunch lately .. can anyone tell  
> me why its wonderful?
>
> Anyone using it?  My interest is that the iPhone world is happy with  
> it's new iPhone version.  Apparently lots of web 2.0 sites are  
> rushing to provide an iPhone version.  Makes sense 'cause the iPhone  
> does not support 3rd party apps, and encourages developers to create  
> web-centric applications instead:
>    http://developer.apple.com/iphone/
>
>      -- Owen
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:56:41 -0500 (CDT)
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> Subject: [FRIAM] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent you a link to content of
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent you a link to the following content:
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> Opening up the Social Network Graph
> http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/08/opening_up_the.html
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> The sender also included this note:
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> Interesting stuff here on Social Network Analysis and Display (SNAD?)
>
> --
> Sent via a FeedFlare link from a FeedBurner feed.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 05:21:15 -0600
> From: "Stephen Guerin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FRIAM] Netlogo 4.0Beta5
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> Two interesting new features in Netlogo's announcement yesterday. 
>
>  - new experimental __includes keyword allows splitting model code into
multiple
> files
>
>  - Mathematica-NetLogo link provides a real-time link between Mathematica
and
> NetLogo, for controlling model runs and visualizing and analyzing results
after
> the fact or in real time
>
> Full announcement below.
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
>
> The Center for Connected Learning and Computer-Based Modeling at
Northwestern
> University is pleased to announce the release of NetLogo 4.0beta5. NetLogo
> 4.0beta5 is available for free download from
> http://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/.
<http://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/.> 
>
> This is a BETA release of NetLogo. As such, there may be a few bugs.
> As far as we know, this release is reliable. Nonetheless, if you want to
use a
> NetLogo which has proved stable, please stick with NetLogo
> 3.1.4 for now.
>
> Please try 4.0beta5 out and send us bug reports at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:bugs%40ccl.northwestern.edu>  and other suggestions and comments
at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:feedback%40ccl.northwestern.edu> .
>
> If you are a Mathematica user, you might want to try out the
NetLogo-Mathematica
> link, new in this release. We have found combining the power of ABM and
symbolic
> scientific computing to be quite powerful.
>
> For those of you who have been inquiring about colors: In case you missed
it, in
> beta3, NetLogo color variables can now take values from the full RGB color
> space.
>
> The following is a (partial) list of changes made and new features added
since
> the previous beta, NetLogo 4.0beta3. (For a complete list of changes
since 3.1.4
> see http://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/whatsnew4_0.html
> <http://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/whatsnew4_0.html>  .)
>
> * models:
> + new earth science model: Climate Change new chemistry model: Diprotic 
> + Acid new materials science model: Solid Diffusion new mathematics 
> + model: Surface Walking 2D new network model: Team Assembly new 
> + unverified El Farol model replaces old El Farol which is
> now named El Farol Network Congestion
> + improved models: Conic Sections 2 (now verified), Echo (now
> verified), Rebellion (bugfixes; now verified), Heatbugs (improved
visuals),
> Small Worlds (bugfix), Planarity (simpler code), Daisyworld (now verified)
> + new Code Examples: Ask-Concurrent Example, Ask Ordering Example,
> Random Network Example, Fully Connected Network Example, Mobile
Aggregation
> Example, Wall Following Example, Circular Path Example
> + new HubNet activities: PANDA BEAR
> + new HubNet code example: Template
> + improved models: Planarity (simpler code), Autumn
> (now verified), Plant Hybridization
> + improved HubNet activities: Dice Stalagmite HubNet (now
> verified), Bug Hunters Camouflage (now verified), Root Beer Game, Disease
> Doctors, Minority Game
> * features:
> + new experimental __includes keyword allows splitting model
> code into multiple files
> + Mathematica-NetLogo link provides a real-time link
> between Mathematica and NetLogo, for controlling model runs and
visualizing and
> analyzing results after the fact or in real time
> + output areas now have editable font size the tie command is no longer 
> + experimental; new link variable
> tie-mode can be set to "fixed", "free", or "none"
> * language changes:
> + old rgb and hsb primitives renamed to approximate-rgb and
> approximate-hsb; they now expect inputs in 0-255 range instead of 0-1.0
> + new primitive import-pcolors-rgb imports images into the
> patches as RGB colors
> + the file-read primitive now skips over comments code may now set a 
> + slider to values which violate the
> slider's min, max, and increment
> + new reporter all? tests whether all agents in an agentset
> satisfy a condition
> + the hsb and rgb reporters now report RGB lists instead of
> NetLogo colors
> + added is-<link-breed>? primitive
> + added is-directed-link and is-undirected-link? primitives the table 
> + extension now restricts table keys to be numbers,
> strings, booleans, or nested lists of same
> * fixes:
> + new monitors now default to full precision, not 3 decimal places the 
> + file-read reporter now reads very long lists drastically
> faster
> + fixed 4.0-only bug where some list primitives such as sum and
> mean didn't work properly with the new of primitive in some cases
> + fixed 4.0-only bug where import-world didn't work with arrays
> and tables
> + fixed 4.0-only bug where importing shapes caused a Java
> exception
> + fixed 4.0-only bug where the speed slider didn't function
> well with continuous updates (there was a sharp discontinuity in speed on
the
> left)
> + fixed 4.0-only bug where using the speed slider to fast-forward
> a model with tick-based updates and fractional updates could cause view
updates
> at incorrect times
> + fixed 4.0-only bug where applets required additional jars
> besides just NetLogoLite.jar
> + fixed some 4.0-only bugs in plotting
>
> Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:bugs%40ccl.northwestern.edu>  and other suggestions and comments
to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:feedback%40ccl.northwestern.edu> .
>
> We also have three mailing lists for NetLogo:
> - netlogo-announce: occasional release announcements only
> - netlogo-users: discussions about NetLogo
> - netlogo-educators: discussions about teaching with NetLogo
> http://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/
<http://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/>  has
> info on all three.
>
> Credits:
>
> NetLogo was designed and authored by Uri Wilensky, project leader and
director
> of the CCL. The lead developer is Seth Tisue. Many others have contributed
> greatly. HubNet was jointly designed by Uri Wilensky and Walter Stroup.
>
> The design of NetLogo was supported through funding from the National
Science
> Foundation (grants REC 9632612, REC 9814682, REC 0126227, CCR 0326542).
> Additional support for the design of HubNet (calculator
> version) was provided by Texas Instruments.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> --
> Uri Wilensky
> Director, Center for Connected Learning and Computer-Based Modeling
> http://ccl.northwestern.edu <http://ccl.northwestern.edu> 
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:00:12 -0600
> From: Owen Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FRIAM] Reed's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>       <[email protected]>
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> Interesting to see that David Reed's Law is now in Wikipedia:
>    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed's_law>
> Its all about beyond Metcalf's value of the network being n^2,  
> bringing in the power set of subgroups networks can form, thus  
> valuing the network as 2^n.
>
> Stephen has the insight that Reed's Law is quite important and  
> explains the web 2.0 explosion and a will be a/the major component of  
> a web 3.0 future.
>
> Nice to see its now pretty fully on the radar.
>
>      -- Owen
>
>
>
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