Hi:

Well I'll put something together and see if it works.  You can post
articles, videos, and audio on the site.  You can also create groups.

I think there is tremendous opportunity in these social networks, but we
will have to see how this plays out.  There is a push to move unified
communication opportunities through these networks for the telco people in
the room.  That also needs to play out. 

Mike

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First, if you created a FRIAM-style group using some (other -- e.g. not
e-mail) subset of social networking technology, I'd participate.

But, I'd participate not because I already buy in to the idea that
"social networks are the future".  I'd participate for precisely the
opposite reason:  I criticize the hyperbolic assessments of new social
networking technology (or any technology to be honest) because through
criticism comes truth.  In other words, we don't establish the truth
through positive statements of belief like "social networks are clearly
the future". [grin]

Second, the more subtle point is that all the talk about social
networking technology seems (to me) like snake oil.  The reason it seems
like snake oil is because I don't think anything seriously novel is
showing up because of these tools.  Humans are (and always have been as
far as I can tell) fundamentally social animals.  Our entire identity is
defined from without via social imprinting that happens and is
reinforced throughout our lives.  Hence, it's not the case that social
networks are the future _except_ in so far as _all_ technology has
always been and always will be social because we (the ones who created
the technology) are social.  That renders the phrase "social networking
technology" moot.

Further hence, facebook, myspace, Reed's Law, small worlds, etc. are all
just different fossils left behind by our inherently social behavior.

If this skeptical interpretation is true, the question becomes:  What do
these (new) techniques provide us that is any different from other
(older) techniques?  I.e. what does LinkedIn allow an individual to do
that, say, persistent participation in conferences and public events
fails to do?

My answer to the question is:  LinkedIn allows an individual to
_believe_ they're part of a professional network when in reality they
are NOT part of such a network.  Or a softer version of that would be
that tools like this _distort_ one's concept of the professional (or any
type of) network in which they sit.

So, going all the way to the end, devices like MySpace are analogous to
religion.  They allow us to bootstrap beyond the potentially
debilitating initial skepticism and just jump straight to the delusional
behavior.  For example, a 16 year old girl arranging to meet what she
thinks is a 16 year old boy.

And carrying it just a bit further, these tools are most useful to
people who are comfortable (and probably familiar) with using and
abusing _other_ people's tendencies toward delusion.  Politicians come
to mind as exemplar professional delusion-manipulators.

Michael Orshan wrote:
> I'm using Facebook and Linkedin for many purposes.  Cleary, social
networks
> are the future for many reasons.  Trade, relationships, causes, etc.
> Facebook is currently the fastest growing public social network, and
Myspace
> is the largest by far.  Linkedin is mostly for business and is trying to
> compete with the others.  Social networking is becoming the key for
Internet
> traffic growth in advertising, your causes or to create your social site.

> 
> They all allow 3rd party widgets, but you need to stay on the site.  This
> creates a specialized third party application.  Maybe with a little
> database.  
> 
> They are wonderful because they bring people with "like" minds together.
If
> you think of eBay, people trade without knowing each other and their biz
> model is beginning to show rust.  It is slowing down.  Social network
trade
> will probably take over.   In fact, this FRIAM group should be operating
in
> a social network and these threads would be preserved for future readers.
> If this is interest in this, I'll build one.

- --
glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to
rule. -- H. L. Mencken

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