In a word, "Yes".  You will be consigned to everlasting amateur programmer
death.

On the other hand, you can fake OO programing methodologies in just about
any language, and you can force-fit just about any implementation into
whatever the paradigm du Jour happens to be.  But, if you want to do a job
properly, you need the right tools.

If you just want to build a toy ABM on top of an OO software design, then
there are plenty of "toy" languages available to play with.  See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_programming_language

for a good list of all the choices.  Some are mature languages; others
aren't.  Some provide full-featured OO environments; others don't.

If you want to build a professional ABM system for a real-world application
that will be maintainable, scalable, extensible, etc.  then the list of
appropriate tools is much shorter.  Throw in features necessary to support
running the ABM in an HPC environment and the list is shorter still.

The appropriate choice of OO language for implementing your ABM will depend
on what use you intend for the application.



In considering the above opinion, as always, Your Mileage May Vary.

--Doug

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On Jan 21, 2008 10:33 PM, Alfredo Covaleda V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  Hello
>
> Months ago you had a discussion respect ABMs-OOP and you referred to some
> suitable languages.  I wonder how appropriate are python and PHP5 to make
> simulations. ¿Are comparable C++, smalltalk, ruby, python and PHP5 ?
>
> Although I've never seen a simulator written in php5 it seems to me that
> it's an interesting and  promising tool for simulations. ¿Are php5 OOP
> capabilities good enough for ABMs?,  ¿ Am I in risk of being  example of an
> everlasting amateur programmer death while trying ABMs with PHP5?
>
> Regards
>
> Alfredo
>
>
>
>
>
> Marcus G. Daniels wrote:
>
> Prof David West wrote:
>
>
>  Objects should be able to interact with bare hardware and not rely on OS
> or other environments - like the Smalltalk image.
>
>
>
>  With the resurgence of virtualized instruction sets, e.g. Java and .NET,
> and good hardware/software support via VMware, Parallels, KVM, and Xen,
> perhaps we can hope to see more high performance implementations of OOP
> as it was meant to be..  The Right Thing running fast bare on the
> hardware (almost).   Just bought 16 GB of RAM for less than $2k.
>
> On a related topic, check out VMware Workstation 6 which now has trace
> and replay.   No more guessing how to reproduce conditions that led to a
> model (or whatever) getting in to a weird state.   Just back up!
>
>
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