Shortly after posting this reply to Marcus, I received notice of a whitepaper by Gauci and Stanley
http://eplex.cs.ucf.edu/papers/gauci_aaai08.pdf which relates to the discussion. Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:41 AM > To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' > Subject: RE: [FRIAM] The quintessence of complexity thinking > > Marcus, > > And sometimes, the whole is greater than the sum of its > parts. This accounts for emergent features from synergistic > network coupling. Specifically, if an ANN can recognize a > coupling pattern in a network that gives rise to synergistic > behavior which is congruent with similar coupling patterns in > other networks - it has abstracted a new patterned, > second-order rule (meta-rule). > > I am not so bold as to state this pattern recognition is the > same as "understanding meaning" - only that certain congruent > patterns correlate with certain output categories (the > determination of which is beyond this post). > > Ken > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcus G. Daniels > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:35 PM > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The quintessence of complexity thinking > > > > Ken Lloyd wrote: > > > Would it be more interesting to ask - What if in second > order ABM's > > > the agents could differentiate meta-rules (as patterns) > from rules? > > > Could they then apply them using evolutionary meta-genetics > > as a means > > > serving as abstraction? Would this work in n^m-order ABM's? > > > > > An agent notes the prevailing behaviors and/or wisdom in > its vicinity, > > and then `abstracts' that? > > What makes it an abstraction and not just an imperfect copy? > > Sometimes > > (often?) the whole is less than the sum of its parts... > > Simulations along these lines could address questions like > the impact > > on a population from meta rules and communication vs. > agents living in > > ignorant bliss. > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays > 9a-11:30 at cafe > > at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at > > http://www.friam.org > > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
