No problem.  The question for any good science of emergence is often whether
you're mad enough!     Emergence is something we notice as the 'madness' of
nature herself, in doing things without having a prior rule to follow, after
all.   The emergence question I was raising in response to Nick's question
was about the emergence of contradictions in science.   We tolerate
accumulations of them, and may make individual adjustments to theory as we
go, but then may get to an impasse and be forced to expand our thinking in a
more general way occasionally.      It may have been a little off point as I
didn't have the prior reference, and as Owen's response seemed to be more
direct.

 

I think you guys generally don't take me seriously because you don't see the
problems my work is a response to.    I find emergence far more
comprehendible when treating time as an accumulative processes of change
rather than as a line of points on a scale projected by an equation, a
process rather than a location.    That makes me also drop the idea that any
physical process is composed of our information about it.     Physical
things are generally ever so much richer in features than any form of
information could ever replace.    That's why I need to refer to the
individual developments of systems themselves as what my techniques is
designed to shed light on , identified as developmental events with key
information pointers for where to look their functional organization.

 

Phil

 

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My apologies to Phil.  My e-mail was intended only for Jack L.   Paul


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