Maybe there are two sides to reductionism, the 'good' reduction of a problem
that locates the true central solution, and the 'bad' reduction of the
environment to fit the solution you prefer.   

The latter makes the 'hammer solution' interpret everything as a nail.  The
former notices what's not a nail too...   That our society is organized to
hammer the earth and its resources at exponential rates, always adding %'s
to the physical effect as its central organizing principle and is not
watching for the difference between growing opportunity for one thing and
growing conflicts for others, is a case in point.   If you're not attentive
to the presence of cognitive dissonances in the environment, well, then you
won't see them erupting.

Phil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of glen e. p. ropella
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 8:28 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Young but distant gallaxies
> 
> John F. Kennison wrote:
> > I have been trying to figure out what my position on reductionism
> > might be, but I am running into problems. Does reductionism mean a
> > belief that the best strategy is always to analyze complex things in
> > terms of simpler components (with, I presume, a small number of
> > irreducible parts)? Or is it a belief that everything in nature is
> > nothing more than a sum of simple components?
> 
> Well, I'll jump in.  I can't say what "reductionism" actually means.
> But I can say what I mean when I say it and how I interpret it when I
> hear it.
> 
> When I say it, I mean that reductionism is a _fetish_ for or zealous
> commitment to reduction/analysis, beyond the practical.
> 
> When I _hear_ the word, though, I tend to make a less extreme
> inference.
>   Reductionism and reductionist seem to be used to refer to the very
> analytic processes we revere and reward in all our most successful
> humans.  And although it's often slung as an epithet, I tend to think
> it's a compliment, albeit a back-handed one.  It seems to have become a
> term we use for careful thinkers.  You only get called "reductionist"
> if
> you keep nit-picking until everyone's mad at you. [grin]  Up until that
> point, reduction is always considered a pretty good method.  When
> people
> are happy with it, they call it "parsimony" or "elegance" or some other
> nice word.  Then when you piss them off, they call it "reductionism".
> 
> That's why I usually end up saying something like "a little bit
> reductionist", which is a silly phrase if you put too much emphasis on
> the denotation... kinda like being a little bit pregnant.  Stick to
> reduction for a little too long, and you're "a little bit
> reductionist".
>  Commit your entire existence to it and you're a zealot.
> 
> As usual, people tend to draw stark and false dichotomies.  Nobody's
> actually a reductionist and nobody's actually a holist.  We just like
> to
> pidgeon-hole people and their statements because it makes our lives
> easier.
> 
> --
> glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com
> 
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