Right on Ken
Thats the major issue --- we inside of the industry understand that the
non dynamic non world related models are SIMULATIONS but to most people
these are wizard visions of actuality and bluntly our marketing to them
fudges this whenever a contract or money comes up.
For example: At a recent seminar for the city of santa fe economic
vision each department ( Some 8 in all ) had created there own silo
viewpoint on a pdf and associated power point with very little
consideration of interaction.and absolutely no multi dimensional
viewable interaction, forget about the real world it was not invited..
In my usual smooth understated way I pointed that the last three visions
were now gathering dust on someones shelf as a result of the word pdf
workflow used and unless they could bring this alive connect it to the
real world in a constant way that adapted dynamically to reality it was
DOA. Now what looks like to be occurring is a non dynamic political
correct sim city YUCK but what they need is dynamic SysBIM on steroids
but god love them I guess fiction is more comfortable and no one on our
side of the table is telling them the REAL truth
As a similar metaphor its worth noticing that the success of the abacus
had nothing to do with technology or ease of use it was so that anyone
could watch EXACTLY what the bean counters did, as no one trusted them.
I submit we have a similar problem and need an equivalent example hence
the thought on do no evil etc and for that we need to come out of our
specialist academic ( It ain't my problem OH is that what you wanted ) silos
( : ( : pete
Peter Baston
*IDEAS*
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Kenneth Lloyd wrote:
Excellent article!
As complexity wonks, most of us understand that static models are woefully
incomplete, and that dynamical systems modeling is one of the precursors to
understanding complexity. This implies the study of systems at some
distance from equilibrium.
Hopefully, we can encourage people to join us in the 21st century and adopt
these methodologies.
Just got a FRIAM post: "This economy does not compute." Perhaps a move from
the deterministic to the stochastic is in order. Our economy computes, but
in non-analytical ways. It's complex ... Doh!
Ken
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