Yes,. such is the disappointment of life!   However. we do, I believe, have
words that would be quite meaningless even to ourselves without some sort of
experience in common.     I too also find I make my best sense when talking
to myself. but am still also driven to explore those subjects which I can
only really understand by way of the give and take of examining the physical
world people seem to experience in common.    Since nearly everything in my
mind makes complete sense, as I make it so, anything that doesn't seems to
have a good chance of being something not in my mind.    That's sort of a
technique.   

 

I also find a consistent predictability to not being able to make very good
sense of anything that grows exponentially.  I see loops of events that get
somewhere that I can't trace, and have found that very helpful in
identifying things that are 'out of body' in that sort of actual physical
sense, but lead me to think about the distributed networks of things they
connect which I can't make much sense of.    However, they still seem to be
of the kind of thing not located in my mind, but located in the physical
world of common experience, identifiable, but not explainable?    Does that
work, is that right ?

 

Phil

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Nicholas Thompson
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:26 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] or more simply, is there order?

 

Phil Henshaw Hath Spoken Thus: 

 

==>Look, I know this audience is not made of fools, and not deaf and dumb,
and probably not disinterested in change, so I have to figure your inability
to connect with my approach to constructing a science of change for natural
complex systems must be that you find no door between your methods and mine.
<==

 

Phil, 

 

Nick Thompson hath replied:

 

I have struggled to understand you over the years and just .... can't.
Others have said the same of me.    

 

Perhaps "connection" is too high a standard.  Certainly "AUDIENCE" is too
high a standard.  We are not all here, quietly attentive, waiting for
ANYbody's message.  There is no "we" here.  

 

The older I get, the rarer communication between actual human beings seems
to be.  We talk to our gods;  we talk to our college mentors; we talk to our
long dead parents, we reproduce the values of those who have tortured us in
our past.  However, talking to EACH OTHER is pretty unusual.   And hearing
one another is rarer still.  

 

Take care, 

 

nick 

 

 

 

 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 

Clark University ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 

 

 

 

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