Hey, that is a pretty cool bunch of information.
Egyptian Ice, eh -  a new delicacy, only for heirophants.
How did they know to do that? Arabs?
Sounds Tom Robbins-y. Love it.
Tory

On Apr 10, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Peter Lissaman wrote:

Solar cookers can break your heart, but not the laws of thermodynamics. Consider this elementary fact, my dear Dr. Watson. The insolation on earth near the equator is about 800 W/m2, it is less at the end of the day, and much less after sunset. For an aperture of 0.1 m2, you getting about 80 W black body, ignoring losses. Concentrators have nuttin to do with it! This amounts to about 270 BTU/hr from which you could boil a bit less than 2 pints of water in an hour, assuming no losses. BTW, you can, with care and ceremony, make ice in the Egyptian deserts every cloudless night, by exploiting radiation to the stars from shallow water trays, and careful control of nucleation, convection and vaporization. In fact, the temple priests used to do it on the flat roofs of the temples to impress the unwashed on the bounty of whatever God they were scamming that week. Much hoopla, involving sanctified water brought up from the basement (where it had got pretty cool, mixed with yesterday's ice), throwing holy dust on the surface (to provide nucleation particles) and wafting the surface at just the right time and rate with magic ostrich featherwands to actually control heat transfer due to convection and vapors. It's just thermodynamics, Nefertiti! And if sometimes the ice didn't form, it was because someone's mother-in-law was a witch! It's amazing what them religious guys know!! I usedta teach elementary courses in thermo in CA and the conversion constants are from memory and only roughly correct.

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