Mark, Sorry to have misread your position. I urge others to read for themselves and get the message straight (go to FRIAM archives, or read down below). .
My interest is only in maintaining the conversation. I know a lot of people in town who are eager to make a living doing complexity related technology and I hate to see such an opportunity leave town without those people getting a chance to speak up. all the best, Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University ([email protected]) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > [Original Message] > From: Mark Montgomery <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Date: 6/4/2009 1:47:25 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > > Nicholas, > > Feel free to post my response to Pamela. I received several after I > unsubscribed, which I did not do for any reason other than I don't see any > value. > > This is simply not true: "knock-down entrepreneurial siege that you are > spoiling for". I'm not at all. You misinterpreted my communications, but > regardless- doesn't have anything to do with what it takes to succeed. Not > about what I want or not, but rather is simply a review of the facts. > > So I invite you to read closely my reply to Pamela. For those who are not > experts in this area, like all others- it takes time to learn. In this > sector most of it is experiential- academia is not the leading source at > all, but rather the laggard. > > Open invitation for anyone to contact me who might share interests or in > business that could lead to mutually beneficial relationships. Be warned > however that in tech commercialization, we do not live in a local world. It > must compete globally or fails everyone involved. My final tough love to AZ > when leaving was that it's best not to attempt to compete, and use your > resources more wisely, than to make it appear that you are attempting to > compete. > > The bar is very high indeed. > > Regards, -MM > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]> > To: "Mark Montgomery" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:04 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > > > > Mark, > > > > Somewhere below I may cross the line between question-asking and arguing. > > I just want to say that up front, because I value honest questioning above > > all, and while I value arguments also, relative to good questions, they > > are > > a dime dozen. > > > > What it looked like is that -- perhaps-- you were hoping that someone > > would > > say you were wrong about Santa Fe culture. I SUSPECT you are wrong, but > > what you say about the City is eminently true of ME, and so I am the least > > plausible person in Town to contradict your accusation. > > > > But I do have questions about it. For instance, from what evidence do you > > come to the notion that the Santa Fe complexity community has a culture. > > I > > have found Santa Fe to be a remarkably segmented community ... a thousand > > cultures. I suppose you might argue that Friam-in-Santa-Fe has a > > culture, but Friam represents only that small part of the local > > technology/complexity community that sees a value in getting together to > > talk every Friday morning. So, it wouldn't be surprising that you found > > on > > this list a lot of people (like me, alas) who see the value in talk. But > > there is hardly a week that I don't run into somebody in Santa Fe that > > isn't a member of FRIAM, certainly doesn't attend its meetings very often, > > and STILL has thought hard about technology, innovation, and complexity. > > Some of these people seem to my cloistered eyes to be extremely hard > > bitten > > entrepreneur types. > > > > So, instead of giving up on Santa Fe (and the FRIAM list) I mug ht put > > your > > assertion as a question to the list. One thing that the people who like > > to > > talk about things are good for is making connections between people and > > their ideas. So, I might urge you to ask FRIAM... might ask on your > > behalf, in fact ... for references to people in town who are ready for the > > knock-down entrepreneurial siege that you are spoiling for. The answers > > probably ought to come back to you in private email, but that doesn't mean > > that asking the list isn't a smart strategy. > > > > All the best, > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > > Clark University ([email protected]) > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Mark Montgomery <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity > > Coffee Group <[email protected]> > >> Date: 6/4/2009 4:01:57 AM > >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > >> > >> The culture is the most important aspect of converting science to > >> usefulness, and creating wealth, which is what our economy depends on- > > more > >> than any other in fact (U.S.- SF is very dependent on wealth creation > >> elsewhere). I've been an integral part of the best work in the world on > > the > >> topic for over two decades- entrepreneurial culture, so it's foolhardy > > not > >> to listen. Several dozen other states and countries have listened- not so > >> much the U.S. Every dollar invested at LANL, SFI, etc. can be traced to > > that > >> culture, albeit elsewhere in the U.S. primarily. > >> > >> The primary reason for sharing is for the benefit of the members. I am > >> taking home my marbles- or rather not willing to invest in > > commercializing > >> technology a market dominated by subsidies and theory where the business > >> culture isn't competitive. So what I am saying in part is that the > >> priorities in Santa Fe are misaligned to its needs in the fast changing > >> world, or its strengths, but then so too is the country it sits in, so > > it's > >> not unusual in that regard. More subsidies won't change the culture, but > >> actually reinforces it. > >> > >> Beyond that, since this community is about software and complexity, which > > is > >> at the core of Kyield, perhaps someone knows someone who is interested > > and > >> qualified. I suspect that the license will go to a giant, but we'll give > >> others a chance first. > >> > >> -MM > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:51 PM > >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > >> > >> > >> > Mark, > >> > > >> > Two questions: > >> > > >> > What do you mean culture? > >> > > >> > And, why are you telling us: it feels like you are taking home your > >> > marbles. > >> > > >> > Nick > >> > > >> > Nicholas S. Thompson > >> > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > >> > Clark University ([email protected]) > >> > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> [Original Message] > >> >> From: Mark Montgomery <[email protected]> > >> >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > >> >> <[email protected]> > >> >> Date: 6/3/2009 6:56:08 PM > >> >> Subject: [FRIAM] Kyield > >> >> > >> >> Hi folks, > >> >> > >> >> After testing the local market over the past several months, in > >> > combination > >> >> with where my wife and I are in life, and knowing what it takes to be > >> >> globally competitive-- I've made the decision not to build out Kyield > > in > >> >> Santa Fe. The science here is reasonably well matched, but not the > >> > culture > >> >> for this kind of business. > >> >> > >> >> Kyield is a holistic enterprise software and communications system > >> >> that > >> > is > >> >> designed to increase meritocracy in the workplace, reduce information > >> >> overload, improve innovation, and allow the individual and org to > > manage > >> > the > >> >> knowledge yield curve for their specific needs- patent-pending. > >> > Architecture > >> >> can be functional/written on any major platform, although I have > >> > personally > >> >> been a bit biased towards semantic web standards. Five thousand of the > >> >> world's largest organizations have consumed everything we have made > >> > public, > >> >> so we have a bit of interest..... > >> >> > >> >> Created a license faqs doc and am sharing with my entire network in > > case > >> >> anyone is interested: > >> >> > >> >> http://www.kyield.com/images/Kyield_License_FAQs.pdf > >> >> > >> >> Mark Montgomery > >> >> Santa Fe, NM > >> >> Founder- Kyield > >> >> http://www.kyield.com > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ============================================================ > >> >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >> >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > >> >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ============================================================ > >> > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >> > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > >> > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
