Jochen, Nice. I discovered when I moved to a small town in New England 40 years ago, I found that there were lots of "theys" but no "we's". So, people would get together and discuss the bad behavior of "they" who lived "up town", but when you got up town, you never could find any "we" that corresponded to that "they".
So, what if your consciousness is just like that. I look across the table and I see one body, and I assume that there is "a mind" to correspond to that unitary body. But lo, it isnt true. Over there, on that side of the table, there is no" I" that corresponds to that "he", just a bunch of different systems struggling to be in control of the body and to look responsible to the people accross the table. Given that a body can get chucked in the loony bin for not being unitary, it is not surprizing that the conflicting systems that control it would be under some constraint to try to appear organized to the outside world. Isnt this very close to Dennett's view in CONSCIOUSNESS EXPLAINED? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University ([email protected]) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > [Original Message] > From: Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> > Date: 6/19/2009 4:35:43 AM > Subject: [FRIAM] The FRIAM mind (was: 'Do robots dream of electricillusions? or Bladerunner, theRealist's Cut') > > You are talking about the list as if it is a single > entity (let us see how 'the list' responds), although > it is composed of several independent individuals: > Russ, Stephen, Glen, Douglas, to name a few. > Can we think of the mind as a similar kind of > list or group, which is composed of several agents? > Is the society of mind metaphor from Minsky > helpful to explain behavior? > > If the FRIAM list discusses itself, would > this be a form of self-consciousness for > the FRIAM mind? > > -J. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nicholas Thompson > To: [email protected] > Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:32 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Do robots dream of electric illusions? or > Bladerunner,theRealist's Cut > > [...] > It will be interesting to see how the list responds. > > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > Clark University ([email protected]) > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
