On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:16:55AM -0700, glen e. p. ropella wrote: > > Well, since my post consisted of questions, I could hardly be wrong. ;-) > > The question was: Is there any identifiable property of a system that is > NOT an emergent property, regardless of how one defines "system"? If > anyone knows of one, please name it!
Absolutely! The positions of the particles in a Newtonian n-body system are not emergent. Of course there are other properties of these systems that are emergent, but position & momenta of the particles are not amongst them, being part of the basic vocabulary of the model. > > Yes, I am _partly_ asking so that I can subsequently analyze that > example and demonstrate that whatever example is provided, it can be > thought of as "emergent". I'm also genuinely interested in the examples > list members might assert are non-emergent properties. Honestly, I > can't think of any. > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Mathematics UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [email protected] Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
