I was going to say something rude, but then I discovered that Marx had
beaten me to it:

"Philosophy and the study of the actual world have the same relation to one
another as onanism and sexual love" (Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels, The
German Ideology, I, III, 1, 6,
C<http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch03e.htm>,
1845-6)


Like onanism, philosophy passes the time, makes one feel good and shouldn't
be done in public. Also, it doesn't actually *create* anything. Hence
nothing to build on. A 20th century onanist looks much like a 4th century BC
onanist.

-- Robert

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Nick, Glen, Russ, Eric, and many of us who have participated in the recent
> spate of philosophical conversations .. I'd like to ask a question:
>
>         Why is it that philosophy does not build on prior work
>         in the same way mathematics does?
>
> In trying to answer this, I looked briefly into the philosopher recommended
> by Timothy Gowers in his VSI to Mathematics.  In Gowers' wrestling with the
> abstract (or possibly purely pragmatic) approach to mathematics, he was
> profoundly affected by Wittgenstein.  I'm enjoying the VSI to Wittgenstein,
> and am impressed by his analytic approach.
>
> Frank, in the past, has mentioned that modern philosophy might be becoming
> more formal, turning to a more mathematical approach (apparently flourishing
> at CMU). Some call it Analytic Philosophy, which includes Wittgenstein.
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytic_philosophy
>
> So the question to the philosophic amongst us: what is the answer to the
> above question?  Is there a way in which philosophy can build on past work
> in the same way mathematics does?  Is there an epsilon/delta breakthrough
> just waiting to happen in that domain?  Will there be a "Modern Algebra"
> unification within philosophy, finding the common ground amongst widely
> different concepts like symmetry groups, fields, rings, Hilbert spaces and
> the like?
>
>    -- Owen
>
>
>
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