Big sighs of relief from others of us as well...
Direct action, that's the ticket. Bring it all down out onto the material plane. The Complex plays around with direct, effective action in areas that have not been represented very well so far. We can do more. [ I do realize this is the Friam list and not exactly the Complex list, but we are in a sense an incubator for the ideas that Friam discusses, and obviously there is a symbiotic relationship here. ]
        Unknown synergies are possible.
        Doesn't matter the domain (science, art, technology, etc etc) .
The initial point of contact is that we can do what many others can't by using this hands-on synergy to create. Like the SimTable does.

Tory
"Thunder is good, thunder is impressive, but it's lightning that does all the work."
                                -Mark Twain


On Jul 11, 2009, at 7:24 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

Bingo!

    -- Owen


On Jul 11, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

Let me make sure I understand what you just said, Owen, by paraphrasing what I thought I heard:

Owen: "There are more people on this list who want to talk about doing things then there are people who actually want to do things, or, perhaps, even have relevant experience at doing things."

Or, an even shorter synopsis: Talk is cheap.

If that is in fact what you were suggesting, I wholeheartedly agree. IMO, the latest chatter about philosophy certainly meets this description. I openly admit a bias against philosophy, and in particular against philosophical discussions about philosophy because they invariably come across as giant exercises in mental masturbation.

Not, mind you, that I have anything against masturbation, mental or otherwise. It's just that nothing ever comes of it, so to speak.

If you meant something else, sorry to have misunderstood. Otherwise, I believe I share your preference to actually engage in interesting work, rather than just talking about the philosophies of how to accomplish work.

--Doug

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