Good lord man, it is still morning! 

Russ,
Yours was a completely satisfying answer! At least in so much as it showed  how
the sweater example would be treated within one system of dealing with
emergence. Yet, it cannot completely satisfy my inquiry, because the original
was not about any particular individual's way of thinking about things, but
about the breadth of established ways. I am hoping that additional answers
(such as that given by Glen) will appear, that I may better understand (read,
be able to describe in my own terms) how such a mundane example is handled by
different systems. In particular, I ask the question publicly, because I am
interested in other people's understanding of the alternatives. 

Eric

P.S. I feel guilty already. I'm trying hard not to post more than once a day on
any of my lists and already I am up to four on this one! Let no one else feel
slighted if their post does not receive a reply until some time tomorrow, maybe
even Sunday. Rest assured that I am reading them throughtout the day and
dwelling upon them.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 12:03 PM, Russ Abbott <[email protected]> wrote:
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>Eric,
>
>I took your initial question as having been asked in good faith. And I
answered in good faith. It seems to me that you owe me a response to my answer.
Did it satisfy your question? If not, why not?
>
>-- Russ A
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>>On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM, ERIC P. CHARLES <<#>> wrote:
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>>Thus spoke Glen:
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>"Just to be clear, you're asking for (at least one of) us to simulate what
>(some or all of) the authors in Bedau & Humphreys would say about whether
>or not the sweater emerges from the thread?  I.e. you are NOT asking for OUR
>opinions. "
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>
>Yeah, that was the idea!
>Regarding Rosen: I am intrigued
>that the answer was entirely in terms of the cause, rather than the entity
>itself. 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Eric
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Penn State University
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