Interestingly,
Most journals I interact with no longer have paper options for this sort of
thing. All you do is click on a link that says "I agree". I have wondered how
enforceable any such agreement is, and what the publisher would do if I
insisted on a paper transaction in which I could do things like write in
clauses. Has anyone had experience with these issues?

Eric

On Fri, Oct  2, 2009 11:17 PM, "Nicholas Thompson" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
Nobody ever objected to my careting in, 
>
>"Nothing in this document shall limit the author's ability to share copies
>of this work for his own career development purposes.":
>
>In only two cases, did it make any trouble...in one they backed down, and
>in the other (they were making life hell for the editor of the volume my
>piece was going into) I backed down.  
>
>Author's contracts are the pits.  I particularly used to wince at the
>phrase, "the authors shall hold the publisher harmless from any harm
>arising from the publication of the work."  Oh, sure.  
>
>Nick 
>
>Nicholas S. Thompson
>Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
>Clark University ([email protected])
>http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: russell standish <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
>Coffee
>Group <[email protected]>
>> Date: 10/3/2009 4:11:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FYI: More mumbo-jumbo @ emergence
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 11:56:04AM -0700, Russ Abbott wrote:
>> > 
>> > Furthermore, it is always OK to publish "pre-prints" of
>journal
>articles.
>> > These are author-formatted versions of published articles. Pre-prints
>allow
>> > the contents of articles to be made available without charge without
>giving
>> > away the formatting "added value" contributed by the
>publisher.
>> > 
>> > -- Russ A
>> > 
>>
>> >From a legal standpoint, I don't think this is true, unless the
>> journal specifically allows for it in their transfer of copyright
>> agreement, which most journals require authors to sign.
>>
>> What I _always_ do is read the copyright assignment agreement, and if
>> it doesn't specifically allow for the article to be added to an
>> e-print server, I will add in the specific clause allowing me to do
>> this, before signing the copyright transfer and sending it back. Many
>> of the important journals will allow for e-print servers and personal
>> websites, but some of the newer journals do not.
>>
>> I don't much agree with copyright transfer, but in as much as it
>> appears to be necessary to be published, I use the same technique that
>> they use (ie large gobs of legalese that people never read) to
>get the
>> necessary changes in. 
>>
>> Interestingly, I have only had one instance of a push back by a
>> publisher when I did this (obviously they did read the fine print
>> :). This threatened to delay the publication of a collection of
>> papers, and in the end was resolved by them issuing me with a specific
>> license to allow for e-print publication. However, there was a
>> Catch-22 situation where I wouldn't sign the copy transfer until they
>> sent me the license, and they would give me a license until they had
>> copyright. In the end, they relented and sent me the license first,
>> after I pointed out the license could only start operating once I
>> transferred copyright.
>>
>> Bugger 'em.
>>
>> -- 
>>
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