Dear Friammers, 

We have decided to carry on from our seminar on Emergence to one on 
Mathematical Thinking.  Although we don't meet for a month, I found myself 
reading the first assignment, Thurston's On Proof and Progress in Mathematics.  
Now Thurston loves mathematics and is  apparently good at it, but he is firm in 
arguing that the process of proof is not as the normative account would have 
it.   Given our local debates about the ideal of formalism and given my 
suspicion that many computer programmers suffer from math envy (the way 
experimental psychologists suffer from physics envy),  I was astonished by the 
following paragraphs.  

The standared of correctness and completeness necessary to get a computer 
program to work at all is a couple of orders of magnitude higher than the 
mathematical community's standard of valid proof.  

Astonished, and yet, instantly convinced that it was true.   Note that Thurston 
is proud of how mathematicians do their work; no criticism here. 

I think that mathematics is one of the most intellectually gratifying of huan 
activities.  Because we have a high standard for clear and convincing thinking 
and because we place a high value on listening to and trying to understand each 
other, we don't engage in interminable arguments and endless redoing of our 
mathematics.  We are prepared to be convinced by others.  Intellctually, 
mathematics moves very quickly.  Entire mathmatical landscapes change and 
change again in amazing ways during a single career. 

When one considers how hard it is to write a computer program even approaching 
the intellectual scope of a good mathematical paper and how much greater time 
and effort have to be put into it to make it 'almost'formally correct, it is 
preposterous to claim that mathematics as we practice is any where near 
formally corrrect.  

You would almost think that computer programming was the Queen of the Sciences. 
 

Nick 



I wonder what you all think about it.   

Nick 


Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
Clark University ([email protected])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe]
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