Hey, guys.  Isnt there  already a law in Arizona that requires employers to 
check the papers of anybody they hire and gives them a website to do it? I 
understand that that law is not enforced, because, obviously, it would 
interfere with employers exploitation of illegal aliens.  If it were enforced, 
much of Arizona's problem would be solved without the application of racial 
profiling, wouldn't it?  

Owen, would you really be happy to have your papers demanded every time you 
went to the Plaza because you happen to wear a pony tail?   I really find it 
hard to imagine any FRIAM member being happy to have to carry and show papers 
every time she or he goes to the mall.  You Defenders of Net Freedom, you!

Also,  a lot of illegal traffic coming from mexico would be curtailed if we 
would stop the flow of heavy weaponry from the US TO Mexico.  

Nick 



Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
Clark University ([email protected])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe]




----- Original Message ----- 
From: Owen Densmore 
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: 5/8/2010 9:24:17 PM 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community


Nicely said.


It does seem to me that the nation itself is waiting for the immigration reform 
that should naturally be coming from the grid-locked congress/senate.  I hope 
Arizona forces us to act in unity.


Its fine to revert to "don't ask, don't tell" but it's dishonest.


Clearly the endgame will have to be amnesty plus a work visa plus a means 
towards citizenship if desired.


Unfortunately, the republicans have found a negative game strategy that 
guarantees at worst a stalemate, and at best, a win in the next election.


    -- Owen




On May 8, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:





On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Russ Abbott <[email protected]> wrote:

It's not Arizona. Arizona was simply the first state to have the guts to act. 
More than 50% of Americans apparently approve the Arizona law.  We should 
boycott the entire country--except perhaps enclaves like Sante Fe (?) and Los 
Angeles (where I live).  Do you know what the statistics are with respect to 
how people in Sante Fe feel about the new law?




Those statistics were before major league baseball started organizing to move 
the all-star game out of Arizona.  


Arizona was also the only state that had the guts to dis Martin Luther King 
Jr's birthday as a holiday.  Until the NFL moved the Super Bowl to Pasadena 
from Phoenix.


I also believe it's been demonstrated that you can get "more than 50% of 
Americans to apparently approve" anything if you phrase the question right.


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