Jeremy Rifkin's RSA
video<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7AWnfFRc7g&feature=channel>(The
Empathic Civilization) claims that we are wired for empathy but that
empathy exists only because we can identify with others' suffering.
According to Rifkin (at about 4 1/2 minutes) there is no empathy in Heaven;
there is no empathy in Utopia. I also liked Daniel Pink's RSA presentation
on motivation and
drive<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc&feature=channel>
.


-- Russ A



On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Nicholas Thompson <
[email protected]> wrote:

>   Eric,
>
> I agree. The most sucessful psychologists ... the ones that made the big
> bucks in textbooks, etc, and in circles of admiring chicks at conferences
> ... are the ones who made an industry of taking conventional wisdom and
> repackaging it as science. I think there is some point where I join the
> "hard" scientist critique of the "soft" sciences, not because the
> latter   not as methodologically rigorous, but more because the questions
> they ask are so maleable. A social scientist can always arrange to look like
> a leader by watching where the mob is running and strolling over to be there
> when it arrives.
>
> "See. I was here first. I am your leader."
>
> But am I envious? You bet!
>
> Nick
>
> PS to EPC:  Note the New Realist premise, here.
>
>  Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
> Clark University ([email protected])
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
> http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe]
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* ERIC P. CHARLES <[email protected]>
> *To: *Jochen Fromm <[email protected]>
> *Cc: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group<[email protected]>
> *Sent:* 6/13/2010 9:44:38 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Time perspectives
>
> Jochen,
> It is a wonderful video, but I worry about the content.
>
> Zimbardo's ability to mix a small amount of science with a lot of
> common-sense vacuous, but appealing, bull shit, never ceases to amaze me.
> For example, "All addictions are addictions of present hedonism." Really?
> Have we checked ALL addictions. Do we have a good enough definition of
> 'addiction' to really test the hypothesis? Is that merely true by
> definition? If I came up with an alternative example, like say a compulsive
> collector of past-related items (old baseball cards, records, civil war
> memorabilia), would you simply keep twisting it until you could justify it
> in terms of your original statement. I think at least half of the things
> said could be subjected to similar criticism. For another example, as a kid
> I played far more than 10,000 hours of video games, I'm not so sure there is
> a direct relationship between that and school/life failure. Correlation?
> Maybe, but I'll bet Phil's intro stats classes mentioned something about the
> relationship between correlation and causation.
>
> And yet I maintain my faith that in subjects other than Psychology Stanford
> has important people.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 07:01 AM, *"Jochen Fromm" <[email protected]>*wrote:
>
> In this wonderfully animated video, Philip Zimbardo
> talks about the
> geography of time, time perspectives,
> online gaming and sit-down family
> diners
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3oIiH7BLmg
>
> -J.
>
>
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> Penn State University
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