[email protected] wrote  circa 10/14/2010 10:31 AM:
> Having
> myself come to the conclusion that _The American
> Scholar_ was a piece of shit (during at least
> part of Epstein's tenure as editor), I have 
> good reason to conclude that he's not a very
> good editor, pretty good reason (I think)
> to discount what he has to say about the value
> of a "literary education", and very good reason
> (independent of such discounting) to conclude
> that his taste and mine differ a great deal.

Saying someone's work is a piece of shit is entirely different from
saying someone's taste is different from yours or accusing the subject
of a non sequitur.  The former isn't the slightest bit constructive and,
indeed, is destructive and petulant.  The latter is, at least, somewhat
respectful in the sense that it helps the reader know that, if they like
Lee's work, then they may not like Joseph's work, indeed Joseph's work
might be a waste of time for that person.  And it's always helpful to
know where your time might be wasted.  I suppose the former is _useful_
in the sense that it decreases Lee's credibility (because he calls
things he dislikes "shit") and may, in fact, make Joseph's work more
attractive.

I'm fascinated with our tendency to fling insults back and forth at each
other, especially in these times of extreme political partisanship.
Because this discussion is about credibility, I'll say that it would be
interesting to study the extent to which "attack" or "negative"
political ads lower the credibility of their target versus when (beyond
what threshold) they actually lower the credibility of the supposed
beneficiary.  Does anyone know of any studies that target that sort of
"blowback"?

Here in Oregon, we're seeing lots of political attack ads.  For the most
part, to me, they increase the credibility of the attacked and decrease
the credibility of the attacker, just as Lee's empty comment piques my
curiosity in Joseph's work.  The more others insult the target and make
empty comments or call them names, the more I tend to think they had
something valuable to say and their opponents are just "lashing out"
with no real justification for their own position.  Those expositions
that avoid empty rhetoric and try to pinpoint, specifically, a
distinction between the attacker and the attacked, increase the
credibility of the attacker and decrease the credibility of the attacked.

In any case, it's an interesting dynamic.

-- 
glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com


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