Agree. Naturally it has a lot of value to know truth. Anyhow, many of the documents are no more than idle gossip and conjectures. Others are probably true but lack of value as proves and some guilties will continue walking free, cynically laughing at us and getting more powerful. At least some deceived are facing truth.
Alfredo 2010/12/11 Bill Eldridge <[email protected]> > > Hmmm.... Julian Assange is not the hero - Wikileaks is the hero, or at > least our proxy press. > However, organizations need leaders, and Assange is now the face - must > stand up. > If the Swedish sex charges weren't trumped up, someone would have trumped > up something else. > If Assange quits, the next leader will be attacked. > > Once you start whistleblowing against the US, it's game on - you're in the > major leagues. > I think Daniel simply doesn't understand what he's up against, how the > game's changed. > One cable showed the US shut down a Spanish court investigation into > torture - serious stuff. > > These are no windmills - they are facts, and reporting them is necessary. > > The US media is not doing its jobs. You can quibble about Wikileaks, but > they've only > published 1300 documents - after major papers vet them and release them. > They gave everyone time to see and block anything that would be really > damaging. > > > On 12/10/2010 10:02 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > >> Don't support the current Wikileaks, >> and don't turn Assange into a hero. >> Julian Assange is not the hero the media >> wants to see in him. The problem is that >> the media does not report objective or independent in the case of >> Wikileaks. >> Whenever the media is involved in a case itself, it comes to a big buzz >> caused by >> a positive feedback loop. >> >> Assange suspended the German hacker Daniel Schmidt (alias Daniel >> Domscheit-Berg), >> when the platform turned from a whistleblower >> site to a biased site for the fight against a superpower - the US. Daniel >> reports about it here (in German) >> http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,719604,00.html >> http://www.freitag.de/wochenthema/1041-im-prinzip-gut >> >> What he says makes sense, the original Wikileaks he had in mind is a much >> better thing than the current Wikileaks, which has turned into a biased site >> for a Don Quichotte fight against windmills. >> >> -J. >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> >> >> > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > -- Alfredo
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