Hi Nick I'm reformed in the sense that I now operate within the side of law, order and my country's way of life.
In the early 1980's I (specifically my acronym) was (briefly) deemed to be a cyber criminal by your country's federal investigative agencies till it was clarified that in my country my research activities were not illegal, were government sponsored, and the massive business losses suffered by the affected US MNC.as a consequence of the viral release of my research report "into the wild" was entirely due to the defects in the MNC's product (a major personal computer operating system) which contained exploit points to spy on my country's citizens and governance processes As to the second point of your email. 1) These email scamsters are high volume based percentage players specifically looking for the end tails of the human intelligence. "normal" distribution curve. ie. a) the extremely stupid and rich (yes such people exist) or b) the extremely (over) clever middle class victim. Once a victim responds to an email, they have about 8 to 10 different cut and paste replies (randomly applied) designed to elicit diferenr responses. Remember its all high volume and statistically based without any real consideration of the victims reply which are just superfically incorporated into the scamsters reply back.. 2) Every aspect of this scam game has been broken down and sub-contracted throughout the globe with a high degree of automation and by using very mediocre people . So whereas the victims believe that they are the target of smalltime scamsters who are trying to "hustle" or "sting" THEM using a "sniper" approach, it is really large criminal networks / gangs using "shotgun" approaches. 3) The nasty approach ??. Imagine if a scamster targeted mailing lists of "highly intelligent" people who could "see through" the scam and were "angrily provoked" into visiting a webpage (through a link / whois craftily inserted to be discovered) where spyware / malware is inserted on the target's PC to steall his Credit card, passwords and other financial data etc. Sarbajit On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Nicholas Thompson < nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Really? > > > > A reformed cyber criminal? > > > > Say more! > > > > N > > > > PS, I have to say, as a psychologist, I am fascinated by the m.o. Does it > really work to get nasty with people one is trying to seduce? > > > > *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On > Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy > *Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2011 9:20 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Financial Scam > > > > Hi > > 1) Simply ignore them > 2) Do not communicate with these people in any way > > You should stop receiving emails / texts after about 10 days > > Sarbajit > (a reformed cyber criminal) > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Yeah now the scammer is sending herassing text messages. I don't know > how to block him or I would. > > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Stephen Thompson > <spth...@frontiernet.net> wrote: > > Gillian: > > > > If I read your original email correctly.. you are in receipt > > of a check, suppose to deposit it and then wire a large portion of > > it to another account? > > > > Let me guess....you are suppose to deposit it in **your** bank account ? > > > > That's the scam the money is wired out of your account before the check > > clears (it won't clear, it will bounce) and the bank will come hunting > for > > its > > money from YOU. > > > > Hopefully you have the check, envelope, and any contact info. Turn these > > over to the police or maybe the US Postal Service - if the check came > > in the US Mail. > > > > Sorry if this is a repeat of someone else's advice but you want to be > > careful > > of these scams. > > > > Number One Question to ask: "Why do "they" need ME to test [company > name] > > using money? They can hire plenty of temporary help and set the workers > up > > in > > their own offices to conduct the tests. (or hire a testing firm)" > > > > Also just for laughs - try www.whois.net for the email address to > see > > where > > it *seems* to be originating. > > > > Stephen Thompson > > Investment Officer > > Securian Financial Group > > > > > > > > > > On 5/18/2011 6:16 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > >> > >> Good call. I called up Central Christian College. > >> This person (a bob pemo with a gmail adress) isn't on staff! > >> Further naling it as a scam in so far as the Bursars office was > >> conerned they'd have used a university email adress and not have taken > >> it as an afront when wanting assurance it's legit. > >> They thanked me for reporting and want me to keep the check around for > >> possible criminal investigation purposes, as well as to keep an eye > >> out on my cell phone in case they have any questions. > >> > >> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson > >> <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> Gillian, > >>> > >>> I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That > >>> person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an > >>> explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I > have > >>> to > >>> say. > >>> > >>> What does "test out Western Union" mean? > >>> > >>> Let us know how it comes out. > >>> > >>> Nick > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On > >>> Behalf > >>> Of Gillian Densmore > >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM > >>> To: Friam@redfish.com > >>> Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q > >>> > >>> Hi this is gillian densmore, > >>> I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian > >>> college > >>> to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college > >>> sent > >>> me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. > >>> There > >>> isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par > for > >>> course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check > his > >>> background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to > >>> insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day > >>> and > >>> age of scams? > >>> > >>> ============================================================ > >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, > archives, > >>> unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > >>> > >>> > >>> ============================================================ > >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > >>> > >> ============================================================ > >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > >> > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >
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