Thoughts on Apps vs. Web Apps / Apple approach vs. Google approach

Apple seems definitely on the right track with the iCloud, but I think, as
Owen's email points out, that is because they are rapidly adapting to the new
hardware ecology. In a world where everyone has one or two computers, full
function computers, the Google approach rocks. In a world where everyone has 15
computers and each has different levels of functionality, the Apple approach
seems like it has a shot (if done right) at being a lot better. I don't,
however, take it as obvious that the proliferation of computing devices owned
by single individuals will continue. The cellphone/laptop hybrids, for example,
might be a harbinger of things to come. If people scale back to a smaller
number of multifunctional devices (perhaps quite small devices that function
differently when connected to different interface devices), I think its
anyone's game. 

Eric



On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 12:09 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:
>
Pardon me if this is to weird for words, but our other conversation
>brought out the phenomenon of Apps.  Attached below this is the
>original fragment.
>
>Basically I was surprised by the growth of "Apps", especially with the
>apparent convergence of everything in the browser (Web Apps).
>
>It has now been explained to me by several of my friends in accademia.
> Their students have, for me, an odd relationship to computers.  Few
>can program and generally find the idea foreign.  For a while I
>thought this an aberration but more evidence piled up.  So why is
>this?  Twitter?  Facebook? Lazy dumb-ass kids?
>
>No.
>
>Jobs explained it all in the WWDC keynote.  He described the concept
>of a file hierarchy as being a pain for most folks who simply want an
>App to manage their files and to hell with the file, its name and
>extension, and where it is in the file hierarchy and syncing the damn
>files from/to all my devices.  And setting up sync to iPad to allow
>more music files (larger disk) than my iPhone (smaller
>disk).  Files
>and their management are a bitch.
>
>Jobs sez that all data should have a simple App managing the data, and
>actually, the data should not even be on individual devices .. instead
>they should be in the cloud and managed by the OS/App pair.  Better
>yet, the Time Machine notion is generalized so that all backups, over
>time, are also available to you.  Oh, and if 10,000 people have the
>same music, there is one, count it one, copy of the file in the sky
>and we all share it!
>
>Well now, there's an idea!  And I bet it works.  And I bet it makes
>Google run like the devil to catch up because they're still stuck in
>yesterday's Web App approach.
>
>Well, I don't mind Web Apps and I love the convergence due to the
>simplification: one solution across all browsers and OSs and
>platforms.  But Jobs has this right due to the explosion of devices:
>phones, tvs, tablets, netbooks, desktops, laptops, servers etc.  Its
>just too hard to have a single web interface across them all.
>
>So the race is on: Will Web Apps win, or will Apps win.  I'm betting
>on the latter, and on iCloud to do the best job of implementing them.
>
>Final point: this is definitely going to up the ante to get security
>right.  And I'm betting Apple is hot on that, probably some sort of
>key-pair approach that is made easier by King Jobs and his court.
>
>Let the fun begin.  I'm glad I now at least have a map!
>
>   -- Owen
>
>Philosophical note: The WWDC Apple keynote by Jobs made a good point.
>The trend away from browser interfaces to Apps.  This is not a biggie
>for us, but Google's in a tight corner now.  Most vanilla computer
>users will want an App for every Google service.
>
>Jobs' comment that raw data in file hierarchies is too weird for the
>general user.  I thought that odd until I spoke with a few educators
>who say their students despise looking around for where their files
>are and launching the right app for them.  Hard to believe.
>
>But Google really is in a tough place with the new iCloud.  I was at a
>talk with all of Apple engineering in the early '80s where Negroponte,
>discussing Mac color displays will have to be twice as good as PCs due
>to being late to the party.  Well, Jobs listened and spent LOTS of
>engineering time on getting color right across computers and printers.
> He's going to do it right this time with iCloud.  Us old farts will
>hang on to our splintered unorganized world till the End Of Time.  The
>rest of the world is passing us by.
>
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Eric Charles

Professional Student and
Assistant Professor of Psychology
Penn State University
Altoona, PA 16601


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