Given an extremely large data set, wherein the long term trend of the
data has a fair correlation (e.g. people may search more in one month
than another ) it seems very likely that you'll get an overlap with
something non-correlated, simply because you're drawing from such a
large set and there are only so many possibilities for the high order
components of the signal.

I'm betting i could create a set of functions by throwing random
polynomials or sine series for a bound range 10^8 times (similar to
the entropy of a 2 word phrases drawn from a 10k word dictionary ) and
find excellent correlation between 2 of most any normalized signal.


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Greg Sonnenfeld


On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Roger Critchlow <[email protected]> wrote:
> And I fail to understand why searches for "advil" would map to searches for
> "chai tea latte" and "pappardelle" with r>0.931, guess I need to read the
> Comic Book documentation.
> -- rec --
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Douglas Roberts <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry about the delay; busy weekend.
>> Yes, google correlate maps search data, not actual real data, although you
>> do have the option of loading your own time series and letting google
>> correlate that for you.
>> Still, I fail to understand why searches for "ibuprofen" would map to
>> searches for "gateway bible" with r=0.949.
>> --Doug
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Robert J. Cordingley
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought the example Doug sent was a correlation between the frequency
>>> of search terms, not with any actual real data.  I always thought
>>> correlating time based data was difficult since as usage rises in general
>>> one might expect search term frequency to rise together too.  Real
>>> statisticians can chime in here.
>>>
>>> 'santa fe' was interesting in showing an annual cycle presumably
>>> corresponding to people's interest in finding info on a tourist
>>> destination.
>>>
>>> Drawing was interesting in that it seems one could always find some
>>> search term frequencies to correlate with any shape curve.
>>>
>>> Conclusion: it was fun.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Robert C
>>>
>>> On 9/30/11 2:36 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>> That's the one I was using, Tom.
>>> --Doug
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Tom Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is this any help?  https://www.google.com/trends/correlate/
>>>>
>>>> -tj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Douglas Roberts <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anybody been able to get anything useful out of that thing?  Most
>>>>> of the items I've searched for return totally bizarre results.  For 
>>>>> example,
>>>>> searching on ibuprofen with the intent to see any correlations with
>>>>> influenza give this as one of the higher-correlated results:
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://www.google.com/trends/correlate/search?e=ibuprofen&e=gateway+bible&t=weekly
>>>>> WTF?  Does this show that on-line religion causes headaches?
>>>>>  Seriously, has anybody found this tool to be of any practical use?
>>>>> --Doug
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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