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I just stumbled on this message that was never answered. It was in RED so I figured I better answer it. See below. In fact, many warrior groups kidnap the women AND children from other groups. Or even take the men as slaves. This would seem to be stupid from in inclusive fitness point of view, but makes sense from a group selection point of view. Nick From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Russ Abbott Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:15 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] vol 98, iss.25 psychology cont'd Favoring members of one's own group is not incompatible with letting new people in. Many religions proselytize, for example. (Also, clubs and political parties recruit; countries add new citizens; etc.) Still members (new or longstanding) are often favored over non-members. -- Russ On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:45 AM, peggy miller <[email protected]> wrote: At the risk of being too thorough, I wanted to comment on Russ's point: "For example, group members will often favor other group members over > outsiders even if the outsider is the better choice for the individual > to make on some objective basis. This is often an evolved preference ."> Groups that are successful in having their members behave in this way > have a better chance to survive as a group." I would add the word "temporarily" at the end of Ross's last quoted sentence. Over time, groups that do not allow "outsiders" in, tend to be inbred and develop major genetic problems and often die out or remain very very small in number due to losing most of members from either genetically inherited health problems or members moving due to boredom with group cause of lack of original thought included into their overall thinking or due to economically frozen structure. I think it is argued in Emergence theory that those behaviors that are sort of "beyond the pale", that operate on the fringe, tend to help the central group develop better as they witness these more unusual forms of behavior. Peggy -- Peggy Miller, owner/OEO Highland Winds wix.com/peggymiller/highlandwinds Shop is at 1520 S. 7th St. W. (Just off Russell, four blocks from Good Food Store) Art, Photography, Herbs and Writings 406-541-7577 (home/office/shop) Shop Hours: Tues/Wed: 12-4 Thurs: 3-7 pm Fri-Sat: 10 am -2pm ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
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