Were you dismissing the idea of looking at the literature by saying that doing so is "pragmatic[ist]"? I'm missing your point.
*-- Russ * On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Nicholas Thompson < [email protected]> wrote: > Russ, **** > > ** ** > > This is, of course, the pragmatic[ist] understanding of “solved.” **** > > Everybody has quit looking for a better solution. **** > > ** ** > > Nick**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Russ Abbott > *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:20 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Unsolved Problems in Psychology**** > > ** ** > > Perhaps we can approach the question of which problems in psychology have > been solved by asking which published results are generally accepted. I > suspect there are quite a few--even if most of them are relatively low > level. > **** > > **** > > *-- Russ***** > > ** ** > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:30 PM, ERIC P. CHARLES <[email protected]> wrote:**** > > Arlo, I agree completely about the process point. > > I was a bit less certain when you said, "something difficult about > psychology is that much of the data has to be collected through someone > else - those [people] involved in the study" > > I assume you would consider a person to be part of the physical world, > treatable in most ways like any other type of object. Yes? If so, how is > your statement different than the following, > > "something difficult about chemistry is that much of the data has to be > collected through something else - those chemicals involved in the study" > > Eric**** > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 06:23 PM, *Arlo Barnes <[email protected]>*wrote: > **** > > It seems so far science and tech have been regarded as thing, or > adjectives to describe 'problem' - whereas I consider them processes (and > to a much lesser extent philosophies in the) and not necessarily even ones > with discrete ends, but more a recursive approach - I see a phenomena, I > make a 'magic' explanation, I collect data on it, and see if the magic > matches the data. If not, I revise the explanation. If so, I see if it > predicts more data. Wash, rinse, and repeat. Really we are making rules > (that are not perfect and have exceptions, and are therefore not 'done') > and making more rules that govern the exceptions (and those rules also have > exceptions). So we have something asymptotically approaching whatever > objective Truth/reality there is by way of infinite regression. Then if we > are doing tech, we makes things that take advantage of this set of rules > and therefore work most of the time. > I think something difficult about psychology is that much of the data has > to be collected through someone else - those involved in the study. > -Arlo James Barnes.**** > > ============================================================**** > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv**** > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College**** > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org**** > > Eric Charles > > Professional Student and > Assistant Professor of Psychology > Penn State University > Altoona, PA 16601 > > **** > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org**** > > ** ** >
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