well, since 1660 science has grown exponentially, never failing to display astonishing jumps in universe size, age, fractal complexity of structure, constituents, weird processes, and recently ten necessary dimensions of space, all evolving from a single flash within the as yet unknown source -- so the empirical evidence since 1660 is that the eternal expansion of science will always grow exponentially -- so the greater source reality must therefore be capable of allowing unlimited qualitative and quantitative growth -- so this is a sort of metamathematical no-upper-bound proof that hints at possibilites of evolution and sentience far beyond 2012 -- so, if we reason that all things that interact are thus aspects of a common unifiying higher system, thus, a single unique unifying higher system, then a "finger pointing at the Moon" term like "God", points at this metamathematical reality -- for instance, even within a toy model system, like the integers, has an infinite number of possible theorems, i.e., as Georg Cantor pointed out 130 years ago, the set of all possible subsets of the integers, which can be mapped by all possible linear arrays of 0 and 1, is the definition of the real line continuum C -- as a corollary, no matter how many unique theorems of interger arithmetic are proved for billions of years, they will only be a point of measure zero compared to the ordinary infinity of the integers, or of the higher order infinity C -- and the Mandelbrot Set shows how this shows up as a simple 2D fractal.
As a mystic, I say that the present moment of awareness has and is the entire creative focus of the entire single fractal hyperinfinity -- this is th i s i s .. . . . . your awareness-being right now *!?###&=0 and a dollar gets you a cup of java. Rich On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Douglas Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > No offense, Rich, but anybody who claims "This film bridges the gap between > God and Science." is full of shit. > > Need proof? Define "God". Now ask somebody else. Repeat. > > --Doug > > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Rich Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> uh, you could already have a substantial grasp, or are a total newbie... >> >> everything you have experienced ever is always within the awareness >> space in which right now these little crooked dark ma r k s appear >> and are somehow understood as invisible me a n i n g s >> .. . . >> >> so every moment is mysterious, inexplicable, an ever changing aspect >> of a single unlimited unity process -- "personal" awareness-being is a >> level within something vastly larger -- that is why inner exploration >> inevitably uncovers new territories of sheer experience -- the movie >> may be an allegory or metaphor, not a logical, perceptual realm >> production -- note that astrophysics now mandates 10 dimensions of >> space and one of time to fit everything into our initial flash of >> vibrating geometries, which has resulted in such moments as this very >> ...... >> >> Rich Murray >> >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:16 AM, glen e. p. ropella >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > I tried to watch this awhile back. It just seemed like New Age >> > mumbo-jumbo to me. I didn't watch the whole thing. Am I wrong? Was I >> > too quick to judge? >> > >> > Rich Murray wrote at 06/28/2012 08:54 AM: >> >> NONDUALITY AMERICA has sent out another great post, this one about a >> >> movie, "The Quantum Activist". >> >> Amazon has it, and so does Netflix. >> >> I watched it the other night and it's simply terrific. >> >> Rather than tell you all about it, I'm just going to include a link to >> >> NDA's site. >> >> Do check this out. >> >> http://bit.ly/LENmeI >> > >> > >> > -- >> > glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ============================================================ >> > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
