Roger,
Two points: 
1) Being a third party kind of guy, with no particular loyalty for or against
Obama (though keeping a healthy fear of Romney), I share Owen's frustration at
Obama's inability/unwillingness to clearly articulate his successes. His
overall record includes a surprising number of major successes that few seem to
know about. 

2) I don't think anyone has a problem with the government scaling in needed
ways to the population. Yes, as cities get bigger, they need more police
officers, firemen, etc. When people complain about "the growth in government",
I think what they are really complaining about is the proliferation of new
laws, especially when they involve "mission creep", in which the government
starts to regulate newer and less necessary parts of their lives. When there
are too many rules for people (i.e., legislators) to keep track of, you start
to get schizophrenic sounding contradictions, which are necessarily enforced
arbitrarily. Much of our problems could be solved if, at least for a short
period, we convinced legislators to brag about how many laws they repealed,
rather than them feeling they had to justify their existence by proposing and
passing new laws. To make matters worse, when the per capita size of government
remains the same, and the number of new laws continues to grow at staggering
rates, it must be the case that enforcement of the old laws and regulations
starts slipping. This means even more arbitrary enforcement and uncertainty. 

Eric

P.S. Not a Federal issue, but: I have a friend who does some fun looking pistol
competitions, and have been considering getting the licenses to participate.
The PA gun law is 126 pages thick. When getting the quick summary from my
friend, I was surprised to learn, for example: 1) There is no license required
to own and carry a non-concealed, loaded firearm. 2) The license to carry a
concealed weapon is easy to get, and will even let you drive with a concealed
loaded pistol on your person! 3) If you are hunting with have a rifle (or any
long-barrel gun), and accidentally lay it in plain sight in the passenger seat
of your car, that is a big crime, even if you have said permit. If anyone could
explain how that combination of laws makes sense.....


On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 04:28 AM, Roger Critchlow <[email protected]> wrote:
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>I asked how 300 million people settled on 0.0725 government employees/capita
for 30 years and continued arguing the whole time about whether the government
was getting too big.  Did they not know that the size of the government/capita
had stabilized?  Did they not understand that the number of teachers,
policemen, firemen, tax collectors, and inspectors scaled with the size of the
population?  Are our elected officials too stupid to understand or explain
this?  Are you all laughing at me because this is something that every school
girl knows?


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>>Owen, the glass is half full.  I swear by 1+1=2, the glass is half full.  And
it's all going to turn out just the way it does, no matter how you feel about
it.
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>>And not to further contribute to your self-centered hijacking of this thread,
but, Obama took the hardest job in the world, hardly anything turned out as
anyone expected or might have wished, but he did the job.  If you're
disappointed, then that's between you and your expectations.  If you want a
braggart for president, vote for Romney, he's clearly the sort who can
confidently take credit for anything that happens, with only a few mis-steps on
the way to victory.
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>>But start your own thread and stop projecting your personal depressions over
every question raised on this mailing list.  
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Penn State University
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