Catch-22 was brilliant. On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Tom Carter <[email protected]> wrote:
> As a youngster, I read a (stunning :-) book that contained this: > > “What the hell are you getting so upset about?” he asked her > bewilderedly in a tone of contrite amusement. “I thought you didn’t believe > in God.” > > “I don’t,” she sobbed, bursting violently into tears. “But the God I don’t > believe in is a good God, a just God, a merciful God. He’s not the mean and > stupid God you make Him out to be.” > > Yossarian laughed and turned her arms loose. “Let’s have a little more > religious freedom between us,” he proposed obligingly. “You don’t believe > in the God you want to, and I won’t believe in the God I want to. Is that a > deal?” > > (for a more extended quote: > http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2009/07/19/the-god-i-dont-believe-in-is-a-good-kind-god/) > > If you haven't read (or haven't recently . . .) Heller's book, you > really should :-) > > Thanks . . . > > tom > > On Sep 17, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Roger Critchlow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Reading > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/sep/27/philosopher-defends-religion/was > a rather odd experience this week, mixed in with Sam Bacile, the > Salafists, the zombies, and whatever. > > > > The review is by a non-believer (Thomas Nagel) who finds the book, > written by a believer (Alvin Plantinga), very interesting, even though he > doesn't believe it. Plantinga's day job is analytic philosophy, so he gets > very precisely into what he thinks it is that his faith and his beliefs do > for him. Finally, the main argument is sort a grand slam of creationism: > we wouldn't be able to correctly figure out how the world works if the > deity, more specifically the deity that Plantinga believes in, wasn't > helping us along the way. Why would natural selection by itself care > anything about the truth? > > > > As the reviewer says: "The interest of this book, especially for > secular readers, is its presentation from the inside of the point of view > of a philosophically subtle and scientifically informed theist—an outlook > with which many of them will not be familiar." > > > > -- rec -- > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > -- Doug Roberts [email protected] [email protected] http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins <http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins> 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell
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