Well, Marcus, I certainly agree that bad academics can be very bad.  I saw
my brother destroyed by his mentor at a Big Eastern University.  I share
your distaste for the Cult Of The Individual.  Ted Talks Make Me Puke.  

 

What about good academics?  Or is that an oxymoron?  

 

What would Good Academia look like? Sometimes I think, sitting around the
FRIAM table or reading the list, THIS is what good academia looks like: a
bunch of people, with many talents and deep training in different fields,
exploring an idea closely.  

 

And when I see that happening, I want to get it out to the world.  Now that
part is perhaps silly, because the World it would get out to is barely
larger than the world of FRIAM itself.  But it is a different world.  And I
Just Plain Believe in collaborative essays as a tool in the development of
thought.  

 

Do you have a model for Good Academia? 

 

NIck

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcus G.
Daniels
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

 

On 1/19/13 10:24 PM, Steve Smith wrote:

> Not to fan any flames, but I am curious about the stereotypes we all 

> carry... "Academic" being the current one at issue...

Peer review is the mechanism for determining quality work in academia.   

Researchers that can get their work past peer review get jobs, and 

others do not.   A common way for junior people to get work through peer 

review is to have senior researcher (typically their mentor and boss) guide
the process.  The senior researchers do this for their own benefit, becoming
senior authors on the papers, and in this way they accumulate an impressive
publication record and prominence and for a good bang for the buck.  At the
end of the day, in certain academic cliques, one will find that peer review
means that a few powerful people 

see that it is in their interest to get papers published.   This is not 

to say that the papers are wrong, or haven't been reviewed, but they may not
be particularly innovative. It's an economics based on reputation and
professional networking amongst the Players, and it depends on having a
pipeline of junior people of various investment to do the work.

 

The idea of taking mailing list discussions and converting it into a
publication has a similar smell.

Instead of having students do the work, there's the brainstorming, analysis,
argumentation of the community as an energy source.  It just needs to be
refined..  where the `refinement' is presented as the crucial contribution
of the grown-ups.  I could go on, but it gets more cynical from here on
out..

 

Marcus

 

 

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