P.S., I forgot to mention, there's an API for all of this, to generate
graphs programatically should that become applicable.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ron Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Barry,
> Yes, arrows can be of different types.  Colors are now supported in the
> UI.  Styles (dotted, etc.) are supported in the backend, only awaiting an
> afternoon to put in the UI to select the style you want.
>
> Weighting of arrows is also supported, currently being saved in the shared
> database, similarly just needs a selection form in the UI.  A heavier
> weight on the arrow between nodes causes those two nodes to be laid out
> closer together, indicating relevance to each other.
>
> Size of nodes is currently selectable, I'm sure you saw that.
>
> If by attribute of an arrow you mean labeling of it, that can currently be
> done by clicking the asterisk next to the arrow.
>
> Branches are minimized by clicking the minus sign (tiny) at the head of
> the arrow.
>
> Nodes may be clustered by dragging to the upper right to the tiny icon
> that's there, just below "Summaries".  So there's some support for
> arranging similar topics together.
>
> Yes, I'm a big fan of crowd sourcing, in fact, that's the motivation
> behind this.  If you haven't installed the button on your browser to insert
> links to websites in a graph on the run as you browse, that's worth doing
> (Tools menu).
>
> Printing is practical up to a certain size, but .pdf export (Tools menu
> again) is better, because it retains the active links.  Also, embedding a
> clickable graph in a FRIAM website is possible, though that's public to the
> world.
>
> Ron
>
>
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> Ron Newman
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>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Barry MacKichan <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Interesting...
>>
>> Here are some ideas to think about or shoot down.
>>
>> Is there a role for different types of arrows between entities? I can
>> imagine writing something and wanting to indicate that it is in response to
>> (a particular paragraph?) of a particular email, but I might also want  to
>> point back to the beginning (message or paragraph(s)) of this particular
>> thread, which may be embedded in a larger thread, as in the case of an idea
>> originating in a response to another message. I might also want to refer to
>> background material. I might want to assign importance or weight to arrows,
>> as in 'I am responding to this message, but it also has some relevance for
>> this other message.' The most general case is that of assigning an
>> attribute to an arrow, but you'd have to be careful about making it too
>> complex.
>>
>> Some sort of 'force-collapsible' display (e.g.,
>> http://mbostock.github.com/d3/talk/20111116/force-collapsible.html or
>> the WordFlex iPad app) would make browsing interesting.
>>
>> The Mac app DevonThink has 'see-also' and 'classify' operations that
>> attempt to find similarities between text bits that seem to be based on
>> vocabulary similarities (they claim it is 'AI-based'). That would be a
>> possible direction eventually. This similarities could provide additional
>> weighted arrows between nodes. They have some server-based products, but I
>> am not familiar with them.
>>
>> If you're a fan of crowd-sourcing, people could add weighted arrows to
>> make explicit connections that they find. Nodes could gather weight or
>> importance based on 'reviews' consisting of an integer.
>>
>> Most of these suggestions make printing a result impractical, but perhaps
>> online interaction would be enough. You could choose which part of the
>> graph to look at by clicking on a node to see its neighborhood. Sizes of
>> nodes could reflect their weight. You could select what subset of arrows
>> you want to see.
>>
>> --Barry
>>
>> PS.
>> All the data of an email (except attachments) are transmitted together.
>> To see all of it together in a file, save the message as a file. (On a Mac
>> using Apple Mail, select a message, choose File/Save As..., and you'll get
>> the file. Mail programs parse this to separate the content and header
>> information for you.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Ron Newman wrote:
>>
>> I'm willing to donate a FRIAM license of 
>> MyIdeaTree<http://www.myideatree.com/>
>>  (drag and drop building of network graphs from links).  I'd learn a ton
>> about usability from that.  The email / blog content would have to be
>> located on the web somewhere.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
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