I'm in Las Vegas NV for the next few days, regularly getting 18 Mbps down,
1 Mbps up on my $30/month "unlimited" T-Mobile plan.

-Doug
On Feb 24, 2013 11:13 AM, "Owen Densmore" <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:

> God, thats amazing speed.
>
> I wonder if the cell providers might eventually take over broadband to the
> home?  I know there are "cell  modem" like critters that work as home
> broadband (Carl uses one).  Currently they are expensive for massive use
> (movies etc).
>
> But with the failure of good broadband availability in much of the US,
> anyway, it seems a compelling market.
>
>    -- Owen
>
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Douglas Roberts <d...@parrot-farm.net>wrote:
>
>> So, after bitching about WiFi on the Nexus 4 earlier today, I'm now
>> sitting in the Airport Hyatt in Abq getting 14 Mbps down, and 2 Mbps up
>> with a solid HSPA+ T-Mobile connection, and guess what: everything works.
>> Google is an idiot for not fixing WiFi on this phone.
>>  On Feb 23, 2013 6:02 PM, "Douglas Roberts" <d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>>
>>> That was next on my list, after getting Pandora running over WiFi to my
>>> Bluetooth speakers.  :)
>>> On Feb 23, 2013 5:52 PM, "Gillian Densmore" <gil.densm...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> gasp didn't root it to make a beowolf cluster?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Douglas Roberts <d...@parrot-farm.net
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yep, that's my one remaining complaint, Roger.  And my list of phones
>>>>> that can run wifi and bluetooth simultaneously is the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) My previous phone, HTC Thunderbolt, running Android Gingerbread 2.3
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, that's the only other Android phone I've owned, so it's a
>>>>> short list.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Doug
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So your complaint at this point, now that you've rooted and installed
>>>>>> a custom ROM, is that the phone can't do WiFi and Bluetooth at the same
>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WiFi and Bluetooth both use the same frequencies (2.1 GHz unregulated
>>>>>> band) and I've seen specs where they're implemented in the same radio,
>>>>>> which would mean that you could have one or the other, but not both at 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same time.  It wouldn't surprise me if that were the standard
>>>>>> implementation of cell phone WiFi and Bluetooth, especially since I've
>>>>>> never seen a spec that specified two separate radios for WiFi and 
>>>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My HTC Nexus One, the one that eventually went through the wash, was
>>>>>> able to stream audio over bluetooth when you plugged it into its cradle.
>>>>>>  That worked fine if it was playing mp3's off the SDcard.  But if you 
>>>>>> tried
>>>>>> to stream Pandora from WiFi then you could hear the frequency at which 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> radio was multiplexing between WiFi and Bluetooth.  It was a magnificent
>>>>>> attempt to make two digital systems stretch to create an analog illusion,
>>>>>> but it didn't make it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's two phones, Nexus 4 and Nexus One, where we've actually tried
>>>>>> to run WiFi and Bluetooth at the same time and had problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, where's the list of phones that you've tested where WiFi and
>>>>>> Bluetooth operated simultaneously with no problems?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- rec --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Douglas Roberts <
>>>>>> d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Steve is easy to pick out of the crowd:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Page Views:
>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>> Entry Page Time:
>>>>>>> 23 Feb 2013 11:05:47
>>>>>>> Browser:
>>>>>>> Firefox 18.0
>>>>>>> OS:
>>>>>>> MacOSX
>>>>>>> Resolution:
>>>>>>> 1280x800
>>>>>>> Total Visits:
>>>>>>> 15
>>>>>>> Location:
>>>>>>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, United States
>>>>>>>  IP Address:
>>>>>>> Tewa Broadband Chimayo Red, Llc (65.19.38.201) [Label IP Address]
>>>>>>> Referring URL:
>>>>>>> (No referring link)
>>>>>>> Visit Page:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds like I.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Douglas Roberts <
>>>>>>>> d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW Owen, I believe I've got you identified:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Page Views:
>>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>> Entry Page Time:
>>>>>>>>> 23 Feb 2013 11:03:59
>>>>>>>>> Browser:
>>>>>>>>> Chrome 25.0
>>>>>>>>> OS:
>>>>>>>>> MacOSX
>>>>>>>>> Resolution:
>>>>>>>>> 1440x900
>>>>>>>>> Total Visits:
>>>>>>>>> 11
>>>>>>>>> Location:
>>>>>>>>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, United States
>>>>>>>>> IP Address:
>>>>>>>>> Cyber Mesa Computer Systems, Incorporated (65.19.28.73) [Label IP
>>>>>>>>> Address]
>>>>>>>>> Referring URL:
>>>>>>>>> (No referring link)
>>>>>>>>> Visit Page:
>>>>>>>>>  things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/96-days-and-counting.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Douglas Roberts <
>>>>>>>>> d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I noticed that as well.  The Nexus (and Google) appear to be the
>>>>>>>>>> black sheep of the cell phone flock.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --Doug
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Owen Densmore <
>>>>>>>>>> o...@backspaces.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After looking at the FixYa report I posted earlier
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.fixya.com/pr/feb2013/smartphone-manufacturer-report.html
>>>>>>>>>>> .. it made me wonder what the relationship between the Samsung
>>>>>>>>>>> Nexus and LG Nexus is?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The report felt it important to distinguish between the Galaxy
>>>>>>>>>>> line and the Nexus line.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    -- Owen
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Douglas Roberts <
>>>>>>>>>>> d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There, fixed that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/96-days-and-counting.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Doug Roberts
>>>>>>>>>>>> d...@parrot-farm.net*
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>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>> --
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