Owen, As you know, I've never had any real objection to your position and I agree as to the lack of a reasonable modern distribution system. I do get upset when the conversation approaches the "I think the price is too high so I'm justified in making an illegal copy."
Ed __________ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 Sierra Pinon Santa Fe, NM 87501 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: > I too have had to build an ethics, so to speak. > > Books: For quite a while, I simply downloaded books to see if I wanted to buy > them. I deleted the download and purchased the book if I liked the download. > Also download books if I have the paper version. > > EBooks: Similar. Then came the problem of formats. For example, Amazon only > provides kindle format (.mobi/.azw) while tech books provide three formats > (.pdf, .mobi, .epub). I found myself downloading pdf versions of .azw's > because the silly books referred to "pages". Hopefully Az will finally come > around, but until they do, and the book is not available in multiple formats, > I'll download a pdf if need be. Almost all tech books are ebooks and on my > iPad. > > Video: I downloaded old TV shows which were not available otherwise. Also, > our net was DSL, so too slow for streaming, even youtube! With a new faster > network, cable, we're looking at Amazon primarily, and have Az Prime so many > videos are available free. We also have NetFlix streaming but don't seem to > use it. We stopped NetFlix DVDs when they hit a 30% failure rate. Not sure > about Hulu, don't use it now. We record, TiVo, a LOT of sports and cooking > shows and re-runs on SciFi channel. > > Papers/Magazines: Thus far I have not payed for NYTimes. They let me read N > a month, and I believe allow click-throughs to not count against the N. But > I admit to defeating their count by going incognito in Chrome at times, maybe > once a month. I've also found that much of their stuff finds itself > elsewhere. > > I believe a "digital library" solution would be helpful for paying for a lot > of media. I'd gladly pay $D dollars for N subscriptions .. a "book shelf" > like OReilly's Safari .. but much broader. > > So I'm sorta in the middle, but mainly due to the media industries not > "catching up". Between Az Prime and buying ebooks, I'm easily at $250/year > .. yipes! My guess is that the big TV companies will try one way or another > to make older shows available, but I don't think they've done it yet. Az > doesn't offer pdf's yet but I'm sure they'll both improve their page > references etc, and go multiformat sometime. > > -- Owen > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Edward Angel <an...@cs.unm.edu> wrote: > From an author's perspective: > > 1. By downloading a pirated copy, you lower the number of books a library > will purchase which does cost the author. > 2. Having a permanent copy has some value over a library book for many people. > > Ed > __________ > > Ed Angel > > Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) > Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico > > 1017 Sierra Pinon > Santa Fe, NM 87501 > 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu > 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel > > > On Apr 18, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote: > >> But it sounds like it is out of your price range, at least for now. The >> author (nor the publisher) gets no money from you checking the book out of >> the library, so what are they losing from you pirating the book? Not that I >> am suggesting that is what you should do - it is an individual decision, >> after all - but I always find it interesting what people consider their >> 'boundary' and why. >> -Arlo James Barnes >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
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