Steve writes: "How should Snowden (or Manning) be treated for what they have done; AND now that the cat is out of the bag, how do we followup and handle the implications of what we have discovered as a result?"
I think if people are really so upset about potential for domestic surveillance -- even though it's basically impossible to do foreign surveillance with out looking at U.S. networks and servers too -- then there is no choice but to demand he be pardoned, and then seek legislation to enable dealing with this kind of situation in some systematic fashion. It's a democracy. However, I think many people do have impossible and unrealistic security expectations, and if you ask a lot of them (including me) on 9/12/2001 what would be appropriate, systematic cloud server intercepts and data mining wouldn't have even made a ripple in the water for me. So there's a alternative line of argumentation too that just isn't from today's batch of news. Independent of how a particular government works, of course people can act on their own moral views and create consequences. Sometimes they just need to be prepared to accept them and recognize that no one will come to the rescue. If Snowden is proven to be right (like you I have no idea) and the abuses by BAH and NSA are beyond the pale, then he may have a future. Marcus -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE – Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
