Is anybody else getting these weirdly mangled messages?  A significant 
percentage of the messages from friam are being reported as possible spam.  I 
am not sure, but I believe that I am not getting the original message.

From my reading of the headers, it appears that google gets the mailing list 
message on behalf of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (I'm assuming 
the redfish hosts their email on gmail).  Google then sends it through 
paris.hostgo.com<http://paris.hostgo.com>, which flags the email as possible 
spam and then sends it on to me via Sandia's corporate email.  DNS whitelisting 
is cited as the source for identifying the originating sender as a past spam 
site.  This happens with multiple participants on FRIAM, so I doubt that the 
actual person's address is the problem and dnswl.org<http://dnswl.org> 
confirmed that when I looked up Robert's personal domain.  I also checked on 
redfish.com<http://redfish.com> and you-all are not the problem.  The only 
other domain involved at the point where the email passes through 
hostgo.com<http://hostgo.com> is google.com<http://google.com> - so I don't 
understand what is being detected.

Ray Parks
Consilient Heuristician/IDART Program Manager
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