This, I think, is a good expression of the whole Snowden phenomenon:
    http://pressthink.org/2013/08/the-toobin-principle/

   -- Owen

As a U.S. citizen I am implicated in what the NSA does, and I want it to
succeed in discovering those who would harm us. My concern, as a writer and
journalism professor, is with another fight: the one for public knowledge,
for sunlight, for the facts to come out so we know what’s going on. I am
primarily interested in the journalism that Edward Snowden has set in
motion, and the gains in public knowledge that have resulted from his
actions, which I have called the Snowden effect.

The question that bothers me most can be put this way:

Can there even be an informed public and consent-of-the-governed for
decisions about electronic surveillance, or have we put those principles
aside so that the state can have its freedom to maneuver?



On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've heard its a stunt to pull us off the PRISM disaster.  "Look what our
> surveillance produced!"
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Roger writes:
>>
>> "Whose dog is this?"
>>
>> It's the dog that gets wagged..
>>
>> Marcus
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