Steve: I was a card carrying Libertarian at the age of 19. At the age of 57 and having some life experience under my belt, I am very skeptical that applying "first principles" in rational good faith will yield effective results. For two examples , I first offer the spectacle of the former Fed Chief Greenspan admitting that he hadn't considered the possibility of personal greed affecting the decisions of bank CEO's, and a second example of the Chicago School founder proclaiming the all volunteer army as his greatest accomplishment of all.
The vision of triumphantly reducing the decision to put your life in harm's way in order to defend your ideals and liberty and the liberty and welfare of those around you to an economy choice particularly turns my stomach. Expanding on this testament of my loathing, I see most right wing drivel as dogmatic cover that exists for the same purpose as most religious and political dogma: to justify unnecessary cruelty. --- Par On Tuesday, October 1, 2013, Steve Smith wrote: > Patrick - > > Thanks for weighing in, even if your terseness got mistaken for some form > of criticism! > >> I meant to make a general statement to the list about how I feel about >> the dismantlement of the US by anarcho-capitalists and >> liberterians-of-convenience. My comment was meant to be "in the >> stream" and was not directed at your specific comments. My apologies >> for allowing my taste for brevity to lead my sparse commentary to >> appear to be an attack of your messaging. >> > > I myself admit to having an overly large sense of morbid fascination, so > *I* may be guilty of taking morbid pleasure in the kinds of things being > discussed. I love a good Zombie Apocalypse even if it is only > metaphorical. > > I also give your "Libertarians of convenience" a thumbs up even if I may > be one. > > Although I *identify* with some of the spirit of Anarcho-Libertarianism, > it is a *personal* preference which I do not expect others to participate > in. I don't honestly expect a Liberatarian Utopia to happen (much less be > desirable) but I *do* think that a faction of (generous?) Libertarians > (oxymoron?) can do a lot to improve the world. This is where I find > card-carrying Libertarians to fail... they insist on personal choice being > paramount and then try to foist it on everyone else... paradox much? > > - Steve > >> >> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:59 PM, glen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Patrick Reilly wrote at 10/01/2013 04:34 PM: >>> >>>> Your children and grandchildren will suffer from this sabotaging of >>>> the US government. None of this is funny. >>>> >>> >>> Sorry. I don't understand. Are you suggesting that I'm making fun of >>> the >>> situation? >>> >>> -- >>> =><= glen e. p. ropella >>> The world says I need some help >>> >>> >> >> > > ==============================**============================== > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/**listinfo/friam_redfish.com<http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com> > -- The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, please send an email to [email protected].
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