Steve Smith wrote at 10/14/2013 08:37 PM:
I can't say I've ever done math myself, despite a degree in it and 30 years of a
wide range of applications of it.  On a good day I feel I can read and follow
and appreciate good math, but sadly I never found myself rising to a level of
actually doing any.   I think I was both supported and ruined by computers in
that they let me "do algorithms" in the way I think I always imagined I would
"do math".

This depends, of course, on what you mean by "math".  The kind I sometimes get engrossed in ends up 
pure symbol manipulation.  I don't really play any instruments.  But I've dabbled enough to get the same 
(very similar) feeling as when "doing math".  It ends up being a kind of meditation, embracing the 
Id.  As with math, I've never achieved any objectives with music.  But I do have a lot of fun in those 
"emergent" groups where anyone's welcome to join in.  There tends to be mostly drums.  But there's 
always a subset of people with good improvising instruments like the sax, trumpet, flute, trombone, etc. to 
provide an ethereal fluidity that floats and bounces atop the more -urgic drums.  It gets interesting when 
the group crosses the 10-15 participant threshold.

I've found that objective-oriented musicians either don't grok or are irritated 
by those groups.  And, I admit that if you're not capable of sedating your ego, 
there's plenty to get upset about.  I have yet to attend a psytrance rave.  But 
I suspect they lead to a similar state, but perhaps more kinesthetic.

What about engineering building materials *from* mushrooms
<http://www.ecovativedesign.com/products-and-applications/insulation/>?  Or did
you say you hoped you would be "on mushrooms"?

That's fantastic!  Thanks for that link.

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