On 01/08/2014 03:59 AM, John Kennison wrote:
> 
> Okay, here's my dilemma in a slightly different form. Suppose a person acts 
> entirely on the basis of messages received from a Ouija board. This certainly 
> appears to be irrational. But it could be said to be based on a premise that 
> the Ouija board is infallible. If we accept this, then I doubt that there is 
> any such thing as an irrational action.
> 
> Or, if I get angry and punch the wall, leaving an awful hole in the wall and 
> a painful bruise on my hand, was I acting rationally on a fleetingly held 
> premise, that the wall needed punching? What can we do to rescue the term 
> "irrational" ? I had thought that Glen's approach was going far beyond what 
> irrationality really is, but now it looks like the best one out there. 

I think there are two banal ways in which "rational" can be vernacular:

   1) evidence of deliberation
   2) evidence of the weighing of multiple options.

I don't much like (1) because, well, I have cats ... and they seem to
deliberate on various things quite a bit yet still make what I'd call
the wrong decisions in the end.  (1) evokes the old joke when observing
someone think: "I can smell the wood burning."

So, I still like (2) for a best approximation to what normal people mean
by the word "rational".  But, I'd accept (1) in pretty much any context.

By either (1) or (2), I think both your scenarios above fail and would
be called irrational.

-- 
⇒⇐ glen

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