On 06/26/2015 04:36 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> CBS or Comcast cover that, but also the evening news.  In various situations 
> such conglomerates may find it in their interest to present  information in 
> ways that benefit their bottom line, even to audiences that are above the 
> least common denominator.   Even if their news programs are credible and 
> honest most of the time, it's exceptional times where their reputation can be 
> monetized.  These situations could plausibly impact people as much as 
> propaganda.  

Another good point that argues to the same conclusion, because anyone who 
succumbs to flipping the trust bit opens themselves up to that sort of creeping 
exploitation.  That slow, imperceptible programming probably has _way_ more 
impact than the relatively episodic nature of propaganda.

On 06/27/2015 06:50 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:> Glen,
> Don't the bulk of non-zero sum gains arise from trust?
> see MOTH, for instance.

No.  I think the bulk of non-zero sum gains are a result of co-evolution of 
competing scrutiny, the exploitation of niches the players stumbled upon 
together.  I.e. they're really zero-sum games where the externalities aren't 
recognized by the players.  And in that sense, if it is trust that prevents 
them from recognizing the externalities, then trust is tantamount to ignorance.

-- 
glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com

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