Given the personalization algorithms deployed by the major search engines, its 
hard *not* to see the search engine as a participant in browsing.

. . . bob

> On Jun 30, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> "There's only 1 reason to interfere/intervene in the milieu around you, that 
> is to participate. "
> 
> Is a search engine a participant in people's web browsing?   One can define 
> it that way, but that's not the usual business model.    The usual model is 
> to watch and learn, and sell their observations in some way to a third party. 
>  Most science is about teasing apart causation in as much detail as possible 
> in a controlled setting.  And engineering is about putting it back together 
> in useful ways.  Not everything can be understood or controlled that way, but 
> the parts and pieces often can be.   That's a fine thing to do, just not the 
> only thing to do.
> 
> I have no problem with activism.   If there's no knowledge about how the 
> parts and pieces of a social system work, nor experience with similar system 
> dynamics behave, then, by all means dive in to the blood and muck, if that 
> sort of thing is fun for you.  But if I'm going to spend time debating, say, 
> potential legislation, with people that don't share my particular 
> preferences, then it is a good if we negotiate a protocol for identifying 
> good and bad arguments, so we don't just talk about our preferences all day.  
>   The failure to find and maintain such a protocol means the activity becomes 
> political, and is no longer a good faith discussion, but a rivalry.    The 
> fewer mutually accepted rules -- the nastier or more pointless the discussion 
> may become.   And the faster it gets nasty, the sooner we can found out who 
> the big dog is, because that's all that is at stake.
> 
> And it is not about objective reality, it's about precision of terminology.  
> What is nailed down sufficiently-well for an analysis about the logical 
> consequences of the nailed-down thing or system of things.    It's not clear 
> what this group of people is willing to nail down, even temporarily.    Just 
> like it isn't clear what climate change deniers are willing to nail down.   
> It is bad faith, not skepticism, when people put their monetary or 
> ideological goals ahead of the evidence, and then claim they are interested 
> in the evidence.  That's what I mean by corruption.   
> 
> Marcus
> 
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