Thanks, everybody.  This is why I love you all.

 

I should have made clearer that we are, as Owen used to say, Total Citizens.  
We have no interest in webpages and computers as such.  Our interest is in 
drawing, describing and photographing amphibians, snakes, fish, etc., and the 
possibility of sharing same with others.   

 

Your responses have been most useful.  Perhaps most telling is that NOBODY 
mentioned Google Sites.  Pity. I found it quite useful only a few years ago.   
Why are those people such ….. nomads!

 

Thanks, again, 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 6:15 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Amphibians of Colorado - Reptiles and 
Amphibians of Colorado

 

As this is a list of techies and in light of this wedtech:

 

Anyone else mis-read that the tittle, with potentially amusing resaults? 

😈

 

That said-

 

I was just through this experience of where do I make a cheap (free?) website?

I love folder and file webpage making because as I (famously) discovered moving 
wordpress from host to host sucks.

 

Weebly isn't to bad, but has no undue button and the documentation is clear as 
mud in a few places

 

Wix isn't to bad either 

 

I don't know how comfortable you two are with poking at the inside of a webpage 

 

 I've found from dabling with way to many CMSs my wishlist wasn't what the 
other designers might like they want to minify there CSS. Yet Another Marked 
Down Language seems to be code for Yet Another Manual To Learn. It's 
potentially sexy, but the docs read like greek written in hylolyphs while 
hanging from Yggadrsl upside down after to many parties in Veinhelm and Asguard.

 

 

If he's just interest in making a webpage then probably start with making 
playing with some places then he, and you, know if you might like it. 

 

a few to get you started:

 

Joomla.com

 

joomla.com <http://joomla.com> 

 

It  has solid support and joomla is fun to workwith- for  about 10 dollars a 
month get all that joomla has to offer.

 

Weebly.com

 

Weebly.com <http://Weebly.com> 

 

It's not bad, I don't like that it has no obvius undue system, 

 

 

I don't know how computer savy he is. He might like redhats openshift.  

 

openshift.com <http://openshift.com> 

 

openshift.com <http://openshift.com> 

 

I find the documentation was meh partially because of it's verbage.

 

 

Asking for a fun to use CMS for webwonks is almost like asking for favorite 
star trek captain or flavor of ice cream.

 

If you don't mind tinkering there's a bunch of very lite, and very fun 
webhelper options you'll want to play with these to see what he and you like as 
it's a matter of taste.

 

Pixie:

http://www.getpixie.co.uk/

 

 

Wonder:

http://wondercms.com/


 

Yellow:

http://datenstrom.se/yellow/


 

 

Exponent.

http://www.exponentcms.org/


 

 

and of course Wordpress:

 

Wordpress.org <http://Wordpress.org> 

 

 

I wasn't a fan of googlepages personally but that's a matter of taste possibly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Parks, Raymond <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

There's always emacs and straight up html ;-J

 

Seriously, you might look into a VPS (~= $10/mnth) running Apache and just 
build the pages out of html.  They won't be pretty and interactive, but they 
will be small, simple, and a good learning experience.  There's lots of text 
and even html editors so he wouldn't have to use emacs (but he could use it to 
write in ConTeXt or LaTeX to export to html).  You could make the website about 
and for your entire family with your grandson responsible for his pages.

 

Speaking of emacs, I don't think I shared this on this list - 
<http://www.dadhacker.com/blog/?p=2357>

 

Alternately, you might suggest to your grandson that he build a page about his 
interest on Wikipedia (if it doesn't already exist).  I was recently reading 
the Wikipedia page about amphibians of New Mexico 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amphibians_of_New_Mexico> (I was looking 
for a description and picture of the Woodhouse toads that dine under our 
redneck entertainment center).

 

Ray Parks
Consilient Heuristician/IDART Old-Timer
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On Sep 11, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Gary Schiltz wrote:

 

If the website is the goal, rather than a tool for learning web development, 
then one of the sites like wix.com <http://wix.com/>  have drag-and-drop 
editors built in. The site mentioned is hosted on weebly.com 
<http://weebly.com/> , so would be an obvious choice. 

On Thursday, September 10, 2015, Nick Thompson <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Dear Friammers, 

 

My grandson was inspired by this website, 

 

http://www.reptilesofcolorado.com/amphibians-of-colorado.html

 

to want to do a website of his own, and asked for my help.  I have done three 
Websites in my time, the most recent a few years ago using Google Sites.  I 
found it adequate for my needs, but Google has the attention span of a gnat, 
and I assume they have not changed it and that a lot has changed in the 
environment since I last used it.  

 

So, I am asking if anybody out there recommends a simple website development 
tool, preferably free but not necessarily free,  on which I could help him 
develop a site.  For his age (12) he is remarkable nature artist and a pretty 
good photographer, so it cannot be a kiddie thing. 

 

Any thoughts? 

 

N

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